Where was all trouble?

“And another point [or two], you said that all the trouble was at Hanley Forest Park? if there had been trouble where were the arrests? there weren't any....what does that say?
The claim you made was that you had protested the 'inequalties of the justice system' why was no mention of the Josette Cooper manslaughter case heard then? Her husband was convicted of the same crime but only received 7 years. Why did you not decry this sentence? Simple answer really, he isn't Asian/Muslim/black/green/purple/different from you.
Should you wish to attempt to appear anywhere near legitimate and decry the inequalities of justice then the very least you can do is be fair in your arguements.”

“Mr Cope, as someone who tries very hard to appear knowledgeable, why are you trying to imply that the police would praise one particular political party for their behaviour ? Firstly the police are apolitical, and have to be seen to be so, therefore would not compliment one party for 'good behaviour'. Secondly I didn't realise that this was a schoolyard bicker....'we were told how good we had been....nah nah nah nah nah'
If you want to be treated like an adult then at least try to act like one instead of a simpering little child.”

“Joy, I dont consider myself rascist, but I do like to see fairness and equity in most things, so firstly the event in Central Forest Park, that had the permission of the Council did it?

The land where the BNP met was not Council, did they make any approaches too meet on Public Land like the Play Music be Happy People, oh kick out Rascism I mean at Central Forest Park?

And Joy why were you driving around the City? Too what en? Were you directing your or what, its a serious matter to incite, it seems that you were looking for trouble an open admission to Conspiracy methinks.

One final point Joy if ever you do become the leader of the Labour Group or Council it will be the last nail in Labours Coffin in the Potteries dear, people like you drive people like me out of Political Parties.”

“Councillor Garner

I am responding to your comments on this website in support of the school, its staff and present and former students.

You need to get your facts straight before you print false details you should not believe everything you read in the Sentinel!

Fact ¿ in 2001 (September 12) following an incident caused by a student from a neighbouring school coming on the premises to cause trouble, intruders not connected with the school did attempt to cause trouble during the lunchtime.

The school acted promptly to ensure the safety of the students by bringing them all into the building and calling the police to remove the intruders. A very small number of students were either given fixed term or permanent exclusions for trying to ¿jump on the band wagon¿.

There were NO riots, NO knives were found ¿ the police can confirm this and in fact the school was complimented for its handling of the incidents by an HMI team.

Yes, it was a serious incident in terms of the potential but it was dealt with. Yes, the police did come to school in the days following because we requested their presence in case intruders appeared again. They were very supportive and sensitive to the students.

Therefore, I object to your comments re. riots, knives and the police visits. In the interests of my students I would always follow the line of asking for a police presence if I felt it protected our young people from outsiders. The school provides a very calm working environment as experienced by your fellow councillors who have visited us.

Yes, the school isn¿t viable in the long term but it isn¿t only 40 wanting to join us ¿ and how much do you think the decline in numbers is the responsibility of a council who has been telling our parents that the school is going to shut for some time now.

In fact, we have just met with a representative group of parents who do not want their children to be educated anywhere but Longton and not by any staff but Longton¿s.

If we have always had your support why do you print emotive, inaccurate details about us. It is very upsetting to staff and pupils and totally unfair.

Longton High School & Arts College”

“Councillor Garner

I am responding to your comments on this website in support of the school, its staff & present & former students.

You need to get your facts straight before you print false details, you should not believe everything you read in the Sentinel!

Fact in 2001 (September 12) following an incident caused by a student from a neighbouring school coming on the premises to cause trouble, intruders not connected with the school did attempt to cause trouble during the lunchtime.

The school acted promptly to ensure the safety of the students by bringing them all into the building and calling the police to remove the intruders. A very small number of students were either given fixed term or permanent exclusions for trying to "jump on the band wagon".

There were NO riots, NO knives were found - the police can confirm this & in fact the school was complimented for its handling of the incidents by an HMI team.

Yes, it was a serious incident in terms of the potential but it was dealt with. Yes, the police did come to school in the days following because we requested their presence in case intruders appeared again. They were very supportive and sensitive to the students.

Therefore, I object to your comments re. riots, knives and the police visits. In the interests of my students I would always follow the line of asking for a police presence if I felt it protected our young people from outsiders. The school provides a very calm working environment as experienced by your fellow councillors who have visited us.

Yes, the school isn't viable in the long term but it isn't only 40 wanting to join us - and how much do you think the decline in numbers is the responsibility of a council who has been telling our parents that the school is going to shut for some time now.

In fact, we have just met with a representative group of parents who do not want their children to be educated anywhere but Longton and not by any staff but Longton's.

If we have always had your support why do you print emotive, inaccurate details about us. It is very upsetting to staff and pupils and totally unfair.

Longton High School & Arts College”

“I also watched the Inside Out programme and was perplexed by some of the views expressed, for instance, the people down "the abbey" genuinely believing that "their people" cant get council housing because of immigrants, what? Down Abbey Hulton? Its one of, if not the whitest, most "indiginous" places in Stoke On Trent. There are virtually no immigrants or even a non-white face to be seen in any of these BNP strongholds like Bentilee, Meir or Abbey Hulton. I was also perturbed by Michael Coleman's wild and unfounded comment of there being "2000 immigrants a week settling in Stoke". If those figures were calculated over 12 months it would mean 104,000 extra people in Stoke . Does anyone actually swallow these figures? Is this what they believe in the aforementioned areas?
I was also disturbed by Michael Coleman's digust at the building of the Hanley Mosque and his comment "there is no moderate Islam, all Islam is radical". What a disgusting and narrow minded comment from a disgusting and narrow minded bigot.”

“Belive you me Mr. Cope, I had plenty of good points, including a surefire way of riding this city of your lot of prats, I'll pull off a bit now, and when you lot least need it, I'll be back, kicking your lot round, theres one of you lot I'v got my eyes on, and HIS council seat.”

“Sarah,
I got my dictionaries out too. Cambridge on-line and the Oxford.

Both said the same thing. Racialist is just an archaic (old fashioned) way of saying Racist.

I saw the Inside Out programme too.

If a couple of UAF anti - racist demonstrators wanting to break free from a police cordon is what Mr Cope calls "trouble", then God help him if he gets jostled in a bus queue !

I remember the troubles at Longton High some years ago. Joy Garner is right, the BNP should be ashamed of themselves.

Oh, I am all for free speech and demo's, when there is something to fight, but the BNP's stance was frivolous and vexacious.

How much did the extra Policing cost, and who's paying for it ??

The Taxpayer ??”

“Europe is trying to ban trial by jury? Where did you get this latest bit of tosh then Terence? Our European partners all operate some sort of trial by jury for serious offences just like we do. Likewise most of our trials aren't conducted in front of a jury but in front of 3 lay judges, magistrates. What you have just said is actually a good argument against a jury as you think they were manipulated by the judge. So make up your mind, are we keeping juries or not?”

“Tim Mullen, no it is not the policy of the BNP to abolish trial by jury, its Europe that wants to do that.I believe that Judge Tonking played a part in persuadeing the jury to change their verdict. if you read the trial transcripts you will see what I mean.A trial is not soley the jury. After watching the BBC program Inside Out last night will the people on this site agree that there was trouble at the UAF march, it was plain to see.”