Councils' £13m plan to slash delays and reduce congestion

“Oh I forgot to mention NextDimension, the majority of bikes, parts and accessories are now made in either China or Taiwan, even the old Raleigh factory in Nottingham moved abroad. So that rather puts pay to your argument about employment taxes going to the Treasury.
You obviously are in the Next Dimension, coming out with that load of Twaddle, you certainly aren't on this planet.”

“NextDimension

If they do have other vehicles what on earth has it got to do with paying a ROAD TAX, I drive a van and a car BOTH of which have to be taxed. Just because you pay tax on one does not exempt you from paying tax on another. And for your information, under The Road Traffic Act a pedel cycle is classed as a carriage, in the same way as a car is classed as a carriage. The fact that one is motorised is immaterial. However the fact that the cyclist wants to use something that was originally paid for by someone else is typical. Anyway why should they have their own lanes anyway, they don't take any notice of road signs now, nor traffic lights for that matter. Indeed the vast majority have a blantant disregard for the law and The Road Traffic Act. They ride on the payment when it suits them, they come across a red light and either ride straight through or get off their bike and push it through the red light, which incidently is illegal and can command a maxin £1000 fine. Making stupid idiotic comments like that, you are obviously a cyclist.
Ohh and for your information a diesel car which most large vehicles on the road are, are classed as clean, however a diesel engine becomes dirty when it is driven at a low or restricted speed such as what would be expected when your surrounded by stupid ******* cycle lanes. And for your information I'm not aware of this massive burdon on the NHS because of the horrendously poor air quality in SoT. Get your facts right and engage your brain before putting your mouth, or in this case your fingers, into gear.”

“"The two councils have bid for £5 million funding from the Department of Transport to reduce the current 55-minute bus journey from Keele to the city centre to 35 minutes."

Roughly £1million a mile on the 5.3mile distance from Keele to Hanley or £250,000 a minute (20 minute reduction)

Even route finder gives a travel time of just 10 minutes, showing how badly bus routes and roads are in the area. 55minutes for a 5.3 mile route is less than 6mph ! are the passengers pushing the bus ?”

“Getting sick & tired of morons who don't seem to be bovered how bad the city air quality gets !
There is enough **** in the air, enough People getting sick from particulates & carbon monoxide from internal combustion engines.

And what's this **** about cyclist needing to pay 'road tax' ?, it's now called 'Vehicle excise duty' anyway, so it has even less chance of being spent on road re-surfacing etc'.
How do you know what other vehicles cyclists might own, like cars, motorbikes, vans, motor homes etc', and pay all the tax's that go with them ?
Bicycles, parts & accessories are VAT rated, the UK factories provide much needed employment & TAX to the treasury.
Do cyclists wear the roads out like lorries & busses & 4x4's do ?...er no ya morons !

If more lazy & fat knackers drove less, & walked & cycled more, the NHS would not need to spend shed loads of money trying to fix these people.”

“What a crock of 5hite that all sounds. What it means is holding up the car-driving business traveller for the bus-bound shopper. Painting even more of our paid-for roads and pavements green for the nuisances on bikes. An ever-growing forest of signposts. 'bus lane'. 'bus lane camera'. 'Cyclists Only'. 'Cycle Lane'. 'Cycle Lane End'. 'Beware Cyclists'. All in all it sounds like a cheap way of making more chaos. I apologise now if I am proved in any way wrong.”

“So cyclists are to get their own lanes eh! I hope they are going to have to pay a Road Tax for the pleasure!

Some chance of that, yet another thing to stuff the motorist with as it will be us that end up paying.”

“Many years ago an intelligent friend of mine shared an opinion with me. Our city council was creating "pinch points" on our road network in order to create congestion. Not long after this London introduced it's congestion charge. His opinion was that Stoke on Trent was attempting to engineer congestion so that we too would have a similar charge. As i travelled around the city I noticed lots of instances where the road had been narrowed all be it only slightly in some cases but enough to stop 2 lanes getting access to a junction. For example approaching the roundabout at the bottom of Newcastle Street in Middleport. Pull in bay's for buses were removed and in some cases bus stops moved to where vision past a stationary bus was poor for example near a bend in the road or placed near a traffic island to cause a hold up for other traffic. Vision at some roundabouts was reduced by the planting of trees etc. Road signs and markings are in many cases vague, missing or even worse completely wrong. £13.7 million is an awful lot of money and wisely spent could go some way to helping the city move but if wasted as seems probable the legacy will be stagnation and the continued slow death of Stoke on Trent.”

“A lot of work today is transient!
You go to work, get into a van/lorry/car go deliver some product, do some work or go to a meeting, or go to work to be told you are redundent then you have to go to another area, then your employer gets a new "short term contact" in another area you have to drive to that "new" place of work no matter how far.
I challenge Mike Maryon to stand with me on a bridge overlooking the M6 and tell me this cock and bull story!”

“A News report today said that they are going to be spending money widening roads in CREWE!
Look at where it is all happening! not in S-O-T!
I am a cyclist and I hated Margaret Thatcher but when she said she wanted a "great car economy" she was "bang on", to compete in this world you need fast transport that takes you where you need to go, there is no alterative to this but the car!
Buses to a University and back will not get the economy of S-O-T back to where it needs to be!
Employers need a mobile workforce that can work 24/7, get there on time and with enough energy left to do a full days/night work and in all "weathers" and from anywhere in the "world" they can get the expertise and cycling just doesn't "cut it" does it!
No wonder there are so many people unemployed in S-O-T you don't have to look far for the answer do you, just get on your bike!
So councillors get on "your" bikes to other Cities to see how its done or better still get in your Lexus and get the job done!
S-O-T needs better roads for cars to attract people from other areas that know how to run businesses, plenty of car parking for employees to park, more roundabouts, less traffic lights none of which we will get with this lot of idiots.
So the only thing I can say is if you want to work leave this dieing City if you can!
Get in your cars other areas if you want a life and for work!”

“@yamerama

you forgot to mention that pervez as been seen leaving local DIY stores with bags of paint brushes !”