Saturday, March 16 2013, 5:36PM
“What concern me over this Bedroom, and I think it concern all other tenants also, the Tax only apply's to Social Tenancy, the Tax does not apply to Private Rent Tenancy, both sector of Tenancy receive Housing Benefits, some maybe higher than other but both receive Housing Benefit,
It does seem that their maybe a case of Tenants in Social Housing are been subjected to Harassment by the British Government, in addition also, there also seems the so call Tax, is a Breach of the European Convention of Human Rights under Article 8 which states:
Article 8
Right to respect for private and family life
1. Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family
life, his home and his correspondence.
2. There shall be no interference by a public authority with the
exercise of this right except such as is in accordance with the
law and is necessary in a democratic society in the interests of
national security, public safety or the economic well-being of the
country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection
of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and freedoms
of others.
http://tinyurl.com/bs57evd
The European Convention of Human Right is part of the British Law, the Bedroom Tax is a clear breach of Article 8 due to the fact that it is an interference of the Home by a Public body.”
Saturday, March 16 2013, 6:10PM
“Potter 46, I think we should do what we did in the 1980s with Thatchers poll tax, stand together and refuse to pay it."
I agree with you on standing together, but in away for sorting it out, if we look at all the welfare reforms if we stand together the British Government can be taken to task, one person is a little fish but put all of us together we become a much bigger and strong fish to strong for a Government, if we started an action group off, with a set man-data of what we think needs to done, and the best way of going about it in a correct manner.”
Monday, March 18 2013, 3:55PM
“I think we should be looking at all claimants of housing benefit and the size of the property they are living in. We all have to cut our cloth according to our income, and if you are on housing benefit why should the rest of the country be subsidising you to stay in a house that is bigger than you actually need . The cost to the country is phenomenal and people should be trying to pay their own way in life, not relying on the rest of us to pay for a bigger house. Maybe it does seem unfair but they could always take responsibility for their own lives for a change and rent privately.”
Sunday, April 07 2013, 1:42PM
“We have a spare bedroom, which is used by family members when they visit. But the property is privately owned so Candid Cameron, Obscene Osbourne and Iain Deadloss Smith can go and whistle. It seems that the government is hitting those who are least able to fight back, and if we do revolt and challenge them on this "bedroom tax" we must all stick together and not let the posh boys split us into haves and have-nots.
Stonemaiden should realise that there are many ways to manage an austerity programme without penalising the poorest in our society. "One for all"....and all that.”
Thursday, April 11 2013, 7:29PM
“Raymond 101 - Whilst it is admirable that you know that bit of law, section 2 states that it is permissable if it is for the economic well-being of a country. They could argue that it is. I don't know a great deal about economics, but I did read somewhere that our situation isn't as dire as the media and government would have us believe. If that is the case, then it is against Article 8. But I am sure there are some loopholes in there some where.
And I thought it affected all HB claimants? This doesn't affect us - firstly, we don't have any spare room of any sort, secondly we don't claim HB. So I am a bit thick as to the extent of which this affects people.
Something needs to be done, but I do think this tax is a bit of a non-starter. It seems rather unfair, and as someone already mentioned, if there aren't any 'suitable' sized properties, then families will be forced into dire poverty through no fault of their own.”
“Specialist Housing Committees have been consulted over the legal implications of re-classifying thousands of properties to maximise savings in the unpopular, soon to be implemented, bedroom tax.
Given the go-ahead, it's estimated 1 in 3 occupants in social housing – thought safe from the sanctions – upon re-evaluation will be deemed to have extra living space and forced either to find smaller properties or survive with lesser housing costs.
Under new rules, a single bedroom having more than 180 sq ft floor space will be redefined as two rooms. The Government are calling to amend the 1985 Housing Act which will make these changes enforceable. The cost of dividing up living space should these measures be introduced will fall on the claimant, with the tenant facing eviction or heavy fines if failing to carry out work within strict time limits.”