“I'm a bit mixed - the new design is brighter and I like the fact you can add your own stories and pictures. But it's a bit confusing, particularly if you've been used to a list of stories on the homepage.”

“Rather have the old site, this is too busy and a bit "facebooky" but suppose I'll get used to it”

“Don't like it this will be my last post, Good bye everybody it was interesting....... OH MY”

“too busy on the front page and its giving me a headache

like some of the new features, but does it all have be on one page?!”

“Lousy site much prefer the old one. It's more simpler,too much **** on this one. You need a degree to navigate it.”

“I'm a professional web developer, the colours are very child like, have you thought about your intended audience? Also there is far too much on the Homepage, have you heard of the 7 plus or minus 2 rule?”

“I wrote a review of my thoughts of the new site here http://tinyurl.com/3p2ucrb

My worst gripe is that a) the content I'm after is all over the place, no matter how hard it tries, I'll only really be interested in news and sport until I want a service. b) looks terrible on a smart phone, you have to drag not only left and right, but up, down, diagonal, there's uniformity to it.”

“I have to agree with the majority , it's too busy, it's just seems a mixture of giant text & floating stories.....looks just like it's been pulled out the supplements pages, advertisements are randomly placed all over the page.

I would have benchmarked off one of the big companies. BBC- clear, cool colours(not sunglasses cool ), sky- looks a very standard page with a snazzy background.

Sometimes less is more....”

“Congrats on all the hard work Elksie - I'm sure you've been working really hard on it.

It seems like a lot of people aren't too into the social-media style but I'd agree that the homepage could do with being a bit more news-heavy as that's what people come to this site expecting.

I like that someone re-registered just to post a comment that they're not using the site. The lengths people go to to moan!”

“I seem to have posted in the wrong place, (hardly surprising) so I will say it again,
ever heard of the old saying,"if it aint broke don't fix it"?
the old site was fine, where has the 'letters' section gone? I am loooost!!!!”

“Looks quite organised but the search functionality is very slow. Following up on my first point --- I couldn't even find previous articles through the search, in order to bring it up had to use the old URL. Very disappointing it has turned into more of a market place and social review than local news and issues. Thumbs down.”

“Im not adverse to change but i prefer the old site.

This one is hard to navigate, i cant find the letters????? I have been following the Esporta letters/comments. Can someone point me in the right direction please?”

“If The Sentinel paid someone to create this mess they must be mad. Messy home page has no feel of unity to it. Navigation is nigh on impossible. Colours are hideous. Terrible piece of work by some school work experience kid I assume.”

“I'm very confused, but perhaps it will improve! I just found the site up to today easy to negotiate. Alys”

“dont like it at all cannot see me using it very often if at all it is so confussing not all of us are computer wizz kids”

“No Way !! put it back as-was, The new format is to cluttered and confusing.”

“Can you change it so that the headlines all fit on the page, because you dont know what youre reading about until you clicked on it. I liked it when all the news was in one place so you can select the story you want. The home page is a bit trippy”

“Absolutely shocking website!!!”

“terrible”

“Elksie, don't get dis-hearted dude, its a good premiss for a site, plenty of stuff going on and lots of good ideas. It'll get rid of the idiots as they won't work out how to join up, ya' know, like Roy in Burslem and that fool who comes on as Gary from the pig pen. Anyone now commenting will want to,will make a valid point and we will get debate, not insults. I'll agree with the other comments that the front page needs work. It needs to get into the headlines more, show what's on offer for comment. The colours hit you to hard, its a bit child like, needs to be less bright, more pastel used. You are after a mixed bunch of comments, so try and be all things to all men. You know you'll get the knockers mate, its the internet and you'll have the internet morons at you as soon as you try anything new. Anyway good luck, I think it will work, ignore the no change fools, its how the internet gets better .”

“Very amateurish. Was it done by the schoolkids on work experience?
No I should take that back, schoolkids would have done a better job.”

“it's awful...can't find the news..had to scroll almost to the bottom of the page to find anything other than adverts..then this article at the bottom...awful.

Then I tried to log in - it won't let me use my normal account..had to create a new one... **stamps foot** dont like it”

“Come on people, just click on News, its there, front page, all they need to do is highlight the headlines better. Try getting them a bit bolder Elksie, not a lot, just so as they stand out. They want your imput, you lot, not your insults, come on, lay off.”

“Maybe it's my age, but I find it much too confusing; I can't tell the difference between news items and advertisements. Maybe that's the idea. The previous layout was much easier to follow. To me it's a real backwards step - an abomination - awful, awful awful!”

“I have always thought the the Homepage should say what the site is a bout and then guide users to other areas. I don't feel that this is very 'user-friendly' at all. Sorry but this design is not an improvement.
Website designers should keep in mind who the site is to be used by, and unfortunately I think this one has been designed my someone who has not sent it out to a 'market' first to find out how user-friendly it is.
Primary colours are not very user-friendly to those who are visually impaired.
And there is a box that keeps appearing whilst you are typing which gets in the way. I don't the box to keep appearing, it is very very annoying.
All the dialogue/site being in the centre column of the screen is very off putting too......
I think it needs another look at........ don't you?”

“Dreadful. As is the nonsense I had to go through to post this. Do you imagine your readers to be children or halfwits?”

“shocking website, whoever designed it must have been on drugs. The old website was logical to read, find articles, and digest the news on it, this one should be buried at sea. I wont be coming back on this website again, IT IS DREADFUL. Anon , Mow cop”

“and isn't it really nice of the Sentinel to have the very top advert being one of the ''congratulations , you logged on at xx:xx pm you've been selected to win an ipad, just click here" scam adverts? Surely you should be protecting your readers from internet scammers not encouraging them”

“Sorry Sentinel but you really have produced a large pile of you know what with this new site, it's god awful, its looks cheap and its so difficult to navigate. I hate to think how much money you have wasted on this rubbish but I would strongly recommend sacking the individual who came up with this. Won't be accessing this site from now on for local news.”

“Terrible awful mess. I aint playing this game. put it back how it was. Destruction of an online community!”

“Did i just get my post removed...”

“Yea i did ,,, ill say it again its a terrible awful mess. This time admin delete my account and ban me. Save me the bother of trying to do it myself!”

“Looks like a complete revamp across the This Is stable so not just this site. Pretty cluttered and emphasis on adverts, not sure regular users will relish the "commercial' aspect and the word filter needs some work. I posted the other day and the word was censored as part of it could have spelt a rude word.

3/10”

“the new website is CICO CR*P IN CR*P OUT, you are of course joking if you think this is progress, naaaaah its pure rubbish the additional features do not allow annoymity and will stifle e-democracy to remain secure, and will kill off any interest in your site as for comment on the News items, well you would have to consider obtaining news sources from elsewhere.”

“And since when was I gormhenghast and eh up how do I change that EG someone help ??? drowning in mediocrity......”

“Awful. Confusing, busy, unclear mishmash of ads, stories and comments. I guess the point is to trick people into clicking on ads instead of stories - you'll probably succeed in that, at the cost of losing a large number of readers.”

“Ahhh I figured it out this name was one I used on the Staffordshire site not the Sentinel Site and of course on that site I had the ability to be named what I chose as befitted the occassion, no longer eh, sadly its back to my Ivory Tower where I can dream of days gone by, and enjoy those moments of TOTAL POWER as befits the name.”

“Cool, just checked out the paging on the news page. Great effect. Did I say I'm really digging the coloured Today in Staffordshire bar”

“I dont mind change but this site is awful,where is the letters to the editor page ?”

“Fed up of searching for the editor's letters. Where are they?”

“Unfortunately the decision has been taken not to publish letters online, given that readers can write their own articles and discussions and effectively start the debate without them. If you feel particularly strongly, send your comments through to feedback@northcliffedigital.co.uk”

“I'm afraid I agree with the comment that the home page gives you a headache. You should be taking a leaf from some of the Nationals and following suit - easy to navigate, headlines bold and prominent, etc - this is a bit amateurish and casual for a news publication. I'm a web whizz and have found it difficult to work out what's going on. I was only commenting to colleagues yesterday that the Sentinel site looks good as we were considering advertising space for a client. I've completely changed my mind now. It's Wordpress/blog style gone overboard. Someone got a bit carried away I think. Did you not have a focus group for this?”

“Dave, have the old letters been uploaded so the archive of old content is there? I think that would be a really useful thing to keep personally. Valid point about the letters section being needed in the future though.

No one has said what a great service the site is providing by allowing non newspaper people to become publishers as well, giving all a chance to reach the audience of Stoke on Trent.”

“I appreciate that most site re-designs have people spitting feathers until they get used to them... but this looks like a cheap and nasty blog template.

The 3 columns layout means everything is too squashed. My biggest complaint is that clearly defined sections ('News', 'Sport', etc.) have been sacrificed to a seemingly random jumble. The colour-coding is a miserable substitute.

The decision not to publish letters online is a massive missed opportunity. They should all go up, be categorised/tagged & archived indefinitely as a public resource. This is what digital is all about. It costs next to nothing to do this but the information therein would inform our past and future.

"Tell Us About Your Area" would work far better and gain much more usage as a fixed bar along the bottom of the page, as there is a mental link between having reached the end of existing content and wanting to produce something of one's own to share. Having it wedged in halfway down the right is just daft, as are the partner links etc on the left hand side.

I also expect more from the main "Headlines" section. It should be larger, contain the first paragraph or a snippet of the story and the extraneous details (date, byline, comments #, recommendations) should be removed or shrunk. There is too much white space wasting the opportunity to make me want to read the actual story.

These issues aside, I love BIG "I'm looking for..." bar, and the "Today in Staffordshire" bar (although this would work better as an animated drop-down.)”

“I'm getting use to it now, and if don't mind me saying so, I quiet like it.”

“Elksie, sorry but for me 15 recommendations from 45 replies means that 30 replies do not recommend the new site. I plus friends in Canada & New York all ex pats read the nostalgia site. Last week it was easy to find. This week impossible. I wrote to you help desk and was told 'nostalgia' was no longer available and that I shoild look in newspaper profile, whatever that means. Why change a user friendly site to an unfriendly one?
Help please. ie to find the nostagia/yesterdays sites:- please advise:- what to enter www.??? click this... click that. It used to be so simple. After an hoiur or so last night, result failed, and same tonight failed. I give in.
You may also have two entries from me. I'm not sure if you got the first!
Yours in anticipation.”

“I'm a heavy web user and people will adjust to the change. Furthermore the OLD site...was awful.very hard edged and uninviting..this one leads you to look at things you may have missed before. The soft colour pallette is also great although I think there are too many colours on the homepage. The Social media aspect of this site is BRILLIANT...being able to add your contacts and interact by seeing what your friends have commented on is a stroke of genius as far as i'm concerned. Well done too for admitting articles from local sites like pits.pots.co.uk Brilliant”

“I am an expat like 1lindsay2 ¨(there are a lot of us about) and I agree with his views on this new format for your website. You would do well to remember that the Sentinel is a newspaper, not an on-line dating agency. Go back to the earlier format, or risk losing a lot of faithful followers.”

“Love the new look, well done to everyone involved with it :) .”

“its terrible really confusing, there is just too much going on and its not clear at all?

How do i put an advert in the paper now??”

“I'm all over the place. Where am I?”

“I am all for positive change and understand relaunchs can generate much gnashing of teeth for regular users. That said and echoing some other comments I think the news element of this site has been usurped by the need to sell advertising space.”

“Apart from the homepage, which is a total disaster I think the site is a vast improvement on the previous one. Much easier on the eye and easier to find stuff. Plus it runs faster.
There's a problem with the navigation of the news listing pages - if you go to an article from, say, page 6 of the news listings and then use your browser's back button to return to the listing you end up back on page 1 - that's a bit rubbish.
I don't like the animated banner at the top of the homepage, any flickering flashing ads are a pain in the backside and I'd never go to a site using one to adevertise. However, it's easy to make it disappear if you use Opera (right-click then Block Content). You can probably do that somehow with FireFox as well, but you may just have to put up with them in IE.

I'd have given the old site a 3.5 out of 10 - this one gets an 8.”

“I thought it looked like a small girls Bebo page. Asking us to build a profile sort of confirms it.”

“And who on earth is Darrion???”

“Someone doesn't seem to like negative comments. Say again it's a small girls Bebo page.”

“I used the old site daily and regularly posted comments etc. I have to say, the new site is dire. Its impossible to find anything, the layout is terrible, colour scheme is awful. The whole thing is disorgansied and OTT. Ive also noticed that if you read a news article for example and you have scrolled through 5 pages, when you access the article and then press 'back' it reverts to the homepage instead of the previous page. This means you then have to go back to the main site and start all over again!

I use several websites on a daily basis and I have to say that this is the worst one I have come across. I know its early days but I doubt I will be using it again. I dont really see what was wrong with the old site. At least it was user friendly and easy to navigate!

Perhaps this is all a ploy to get more people to buy copies of The Sentinel rather than just read the website daily?!”

“looks cheap. the layout is atrocious. the colours turn my stomach. what on earth have you done lol?”

“The 'news' has vanished - I always visited before to read the news at the top of the page - re-enable that at the top of the homepage and you're onto a winner!

(Also - sort out the .mobi site too as that was equally invaluable!)”

“Mmmmm you would have thought that with all the redundancies The Sentinel have made, they would have invested the money in a better website - obviously not. Bring back the inputters - girls you know who you are!!”

“Did somebody redesign this whilst under the influence of mind-altering substances? What an unholy mess.”

“quite possibly..no..most definatley the worst web site i have ever seen..its just a collaboration of news,adverts and special offers disorganised onto 1 page..there is no organisation at all..my 3 year old daughter could have done a better design..1 positive thing is that the news will be updated over the weekend, before it was as if the world stopped in stoke on trent on a saturday morning and started up again when the sentinel offices opened up again however it is still an abhorent website,as hrh prince philip would say ''its ghastly''....”

“Sorry but this new site is messy and confusing. Hope the designer had their cheque held back untill its improved or put on some different medication.”

“I'm an ex-pat and stay in touch by reading the Sentinel. The new look reminds me of my first web site design about 15 years ago when I had no idea what I was doing. The choice of colours adds nothing to ease of navigation, adverts are all over my screen etc, a few minutes ago the entire page of my 1600x900 pixel screen was covered in ads. Too much clicking needed to get the latest news.
You need to go back to the drawing board and start over. Begin by identifying your target reader and the experience you want them to have. Forcing readers to scroll past ads etc to get to their preferred stories does not make the experience enjoyable and causes web visitors to look for alternate sources. Look at how subtle the ads are on Google/ Facebook if you really want to follow the social media model and if not go back to the BBC/ Daily Telegraph/ Guardian model. You can't take the social media model, plaster ads all over it and call it a good design. I hope you got a good deal from the designer - because you didn't get value for money.
Perhaps I'm not in your target audience and maybe your web analytics are giving you a different story, somehow I suspect not.”

“No no no!!! This is awful. I know people don't like change but believe that's not the case here. This web site is very very poor. I can't remember when I last saw something this bad. I don't know who is responsible for the design/build/implementation; more importantly who has approved it; but someone needs a 'good talking to'. Please go back to the previous model - there was nothing wrong with that - and soon!”

“TEST,...Because I am confused”

“AH, it works, I have several 'gripes' with the new site, firstly, I can no longer post using my PS3, no big deal to some, but inconvenient to me, also, the adverts look like news items and vice versa, (probably deliberate in order to keep the alcohol pushers happy) I notice that we are allowed to "recommend" with a thumbs UP, but no facility to disapprove with a thumbs DOWN,...not very balanced is it?
you have decided to drop the letters section, a very popular section,...why is this?
is the site now easier or harder to navigate?...be honest,
some of us ex Stokies, who live in other parts of the country or the world, use/d this site in order to keep in touch with what is going on 'back home'...obviously it is difficult for us to buy the newspaper, and therefore WE don't matter,
NOPE, the whole thing is a mess, I have nothing against change, if it improves on what went before, this new site doesn't improve on the old one, it's ****** awful, and reading the comments here it would seem that the majority or the 'regulars' share my opinion, scrap it, go back to the old one, and have a rethink”

“What do I think about the new site? Not a lot. So nostalgia is to be included into 'Lifestyle'. Great! Unfortunately when friends in Canada look for 3 articles I have written concerning our families they can only find one!. I haven't got a clue how to help them. So the verdict of some Canadian ex-pats is the new site is not very good!”

“Elksie, I & others join the discussion about the new site but you or your team do not answer direct questions. It's nice for you if someone says "I like the site", not so pleasant if someone says it's rubbish. But, do you read the comments or just give them a fleeting glance? Is there someone in your team who can reply personally to direct questions similar to my query above. You have the email address. Just wasted another hour searching lifestyle.”

“Ive been trying to familiarise myself with the site again today and must say I am still struggling. When I click on 'news', I expect it to be just that - not articles or opinions written by website users about random topics - i.e. I have just clicked on news and the following pages have come up on the main page: 'How come anglers get credit', 'Sold as seen', 'It's all back to front', 'Maggie Anne the magistrate'. So, on a front page of articles which should be news, we have 4 articles of no relevance that should be elsewhere! Like 1Lindsay2 I would also like to know why no-one from the website is responding to comments? There really is no point asking for feedback if you're going to ignore it!”

“I like it ! It is colourful and busy, but you can find things quite easily, and it makes contribution a lot easier.”

“Agree with most other comments. I come to The Sentinel website to read local news by journalists - not Joe Bloggs' review of his night out. Too much user input. Have been back a few times now and still can't get to grips with the new format. I want a news website not a forum.”

“Not impressed with new site and very disappointed 'NOSTALGIA' is missing”

“The ethos and practice of use of this site as become the epitome of daily life in Stoke, drudge on, fail, drudge on, fail, ad infinitum. Please access to letters, ability to clone identity without re-establishing the whole persona, change the blo**y colour scheme for gods sake. And last but not least sort out the fact that 2000 cans of lager is not a news item, so why oh why are the adverts posted as such. Oh one more thing theunmissable balance between the thumbs up and lack of a thumbs down means honestly the silent majority carries the dislike every time. Summing up up you dont have teething troubles, your jaws broke..........”

“I'm liking it to. One or two crackpots submitting self-indulgent rubbish but I think It'll bate off after a few weeks.”

“I wonder how much longer it will take before the designers of this site realise that they have made a mess of it and try to sort it out, or is going be a case of "pride going before a fall" . I think Elksie is keeping his head down in the false belief that people will have to get used to this rubbish site, rather than be honest and admit the design has it's problems. It's only a online newpaper afterall, not ceiling of the Sistine chapel in Rome. I think a compromise of the old and new site is quite possible to make everybody happy.”

“Why do I keep getting adverts when I click on a news item ???.”

“Rubbish. can't find letters, email the editor and the news thats what people come to this site for is to hard to find. Are you a newspaper or an advertizing medium”

“This web site has to be the worst I have ever come across, it is almost impossible to navigate and is certainly not user friendly.
Brian
Australia.”

“you have ,(at the time of writing) 80 (81 with this one) replies, 32 recomendations,...there is no option to "un recomend" and at a quick count 62 of those 80 posts, say they don't like the new site, Thats pretty conclusive the majority of 'users' DON'T like the new site,
ARE YOU LISTENING?”

“what aload of rubbish. if you are reading an artical on page 6 on the news pages and have finished readin it.click back and it goes right back to page 1. fix this bug or bring back the old style ASAP”

“My problems with the site are as follows:

If I read a news story on page 3 of the news section, when I have finished reading it and click my 'back' button the site returns me to Page 1. Not the Page 3 I was originally on.

News Articles appear to be ordered by comments? Several times I have visited to read the news only to see an article that is days old heading the site because its received a comment. Whilst I agree that most commented stories are generally those raising the most interest this should be filtered down daily so the reader is not constantly reading days old articles.”

“Oh, and add to the above, the failure of the site to recognise paragraphs in a comment, forcing text into one lumped together, difficult to read chunk.”

“Dont like this new site, will not be visiting here again as it is too confusing and i cant find the things that i normally browse through. :-(”

“The site is an ablolute mess from top to bottom, content is all over the place, sort it out or you will have a massive drop in visitors.”

“I dont like it one bit. As already mentioned its a mess from top to bottom. Dont think I'll bother too much on this site any longer..”

“what a pile of s*** this”

“oopps i meant say what a pile of s*** this new site is i wont be calling on here again which is rather sad as i have had many a chuckle at roy of burslem and johntoes slanging matches on here. its not looking good for your cv mr webmaster after this joke you have come up with”

“well i use it for the news, but i cant find the news unless i am looking in the wrong place? sorry but if this is to make people buy a newspaper to read the news it wont work because i wont buy one and i wont come on the site either this is rubbish.”

“Hate the new look site. I just want to read the local news without having to trawl through loads of other rubbish. I won't be visiting again until it's changed;”

“Really disappointing, I am normally in favour of progressing websites as i believe that should constantly develop - but this is just awful! Search function does not operate correctly, articles appear / disappear also article state they have been posted by a Kung Fu company?? A total mess for such an important site.

What were you thinking?”

“I will still never buy a copy of the SentiHELL, worst paper in the world!”

“Hate, hate, hate the new website!!!!

First time on it and probably my last!!!! I'm not computer illiterate however, I've already wasted at least half an hour of my life trying to find where I can buy something... ridiculous!!!!”

“The news is easy to find but why do we have to have other peoples articles in with the serious new? ie 2nd story after the headline today is someone saying there bike has been stolen, also the days are jumbled up, today the stories are sunday then friday a saturday another sunday too mixed up.

I don't mimnd change but I want to read articles written by serious journalists.”

“where on earth have the classifieds gone?”

“What do I think of the new look? Well I appreciate this design was not of your own doing but rather forced upon the entire This Is.... network by your Daily Mail owners, but it feels more like an Advertspaper than a Newspaper really doesn't it? The "Do you own a local business?" right after registration made me concerned that I'd signed up for something that's going to spam me. Oh and ten character passwords are far too weak for any social orientated website that wants us to believe it wasn't built according to some 1996 web design ethos. Telling people to email you their thoughts? Also very 1996. Your new CMS has built in community discussion functionality. Use it to engage your readers directly at every opportunity... unless you would rather foster distrust among your userbase.”

“where are the classifieds??????????????? i've been on here for ages and i've got no idea where you've put them. I like to read a paper so I go and buy one from the shop, so the only reason that i've come onto this site is put put an ad in the paper and now i can't even do that. very poor design :(”

“Something else I've noticed is that you still have the capacity and latency issues which occasionally prevent messages being submitted. Infuriatingly, once you hit 'Submit', the entire page is disabled and an Ajax dialog appears which NEVER times out. So if a connectivity or capacity problem prevents the message from being submitted, all the end user can do is refresh the page and lose their message.

If that dialog at least timed out after (let's say) 60 seconds, the end user could at least try to submit their message again, or copy it into notepad or something so they can try again later. The short-sighted scripting implementation right now results in end-users losing entire messages with no means of recovery.”

“Awful, awful website. I spend a lot of time on the internet because of my job and I would consider myself to be experienced when it comes to using websites and finding information. However this is one of the worst websites that I have ever used! The home page is just a confused mix of news, entertainment, restaurant reviews, sport, adverts and loads of other useless information that I don't need. When I come on to quickly read the news I don't need to know that Bob and his wife had a nice steak last night but the Spotted Dick was a bit dry. When I want to find out about restaurants I will click on the link at the top of the page and look at restaurants. The idea behind it is okay, that when somebody new comments on or reviews something it jumps to the top of the page, but do it on the individual page for each category. You are trying to mimick a social networking site, but it will not work with that much information. Try again.”

“WHERE ARE THE CLASSIFIEDS????????????????????????????????????????????”

“This site is an utter disaster. Its supposed to support the print Sentinel not replace Twitter. I'm spending much less time here than before simply because its not user friendly. You've got some pretty sophisticated web savvy reviewers here giving the same feedback.”

“Ditto Recalcitrant, a great improvement on the old site, which was clunky and all vertical and ad-driven and dull-look-and-feel. I much prefer the new look.”

“I've noticed that since we started to complain about this site, that the link isn't on the oatcake page anymore....could be a start. I get the feeling that the sentinel can't be bothered with maintaining this properly, if thats the case, they should take it down altogether. I can only imagine what fans from other teams think. What was wrong with the old site? I used to like listening to the podcasts.”

“why can't I view today's news without having to plow though eader comment stories. complete non-sense for a news site.”

“onday, January 21 2013
"Want To see THE CRYSTAL/TIFFANY,S back !
I have seen and heard so many talking about the old place, with so much passion i thought yes .So i have spoken to the owners and after much talking they are willing to listen to my proposals.
To have it tastefully done up on the out side , to have venues .. classy venues,, for example Big Bands , Soul and Motown, Disco, Live Entertainment, Comedy Store ,and more ..aimed at the over 30's... it would be an evening for "something special" We have had a meeting with the local residents with no opposition whats so ever .. in fact the ones who attended the meeting were as thrilled as i am ... but i do need to show to the owners that it could work ..bring to Newcastle a much needed venue, plus creating jobs...i have a web page where you can sign the proposal which is http://tinyurl.com/b6oxdja -venue ,or email me at newtru@hotmail.co.uk.. also in the next few weeks when the weather is kind i will be in Newcastle collecting signatures ... I need your support ,WE need a venue ."”

“ok the web address isnt showing up for some reason so if you email me i will send you the link ..many thanks for everyones help so far”