Tristram Hunt: Thorny questions ahead in this Parliamentary debate

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Monday, September 10, 2012
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WE HAVE only been back at work a week, and it is already falling apart. Parliament, of course – not the Coalition Government (well, not yet). Subsidence from years of tube trains rattling past have left Big Ben tilting 18 inches from the vertical and parts of the building sinking into the Thames. The walls are infested with mice, phone reception is non-existent and when the heating occasionally cranks into gear, burst pipes are frequent. Only last week, offices had to be evacuated as a small fire exposed layers of asbestos.

So it was no surprise to hear that a Parliamentary committee is now hard at work trying to modernise the Palace of Westminster. But with options under discussion including building a new parliament, the solution is far from obvious.

This is not the first time questions have been asked about the building's future.

In the 1830s, Parliament was rebuilt in its entirety after it was gutted by fire. Then, on the night of May 10, 1941, the Commons Chamber and Westminster Hall – Parliament's enormous medieval vestibule – each took a direct hit from German incendiary bombs.

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As the inferno tore through the Palace, the fire brigade faced a difficult decision about which of the two buildings to save.

As the scene for so much of our history, including the trials of Sir Thomas More and King Charles I himself, it was right that the firemen chose to save the 11th century Westminster Hall and its spectacular hammerbeam roof.

The consequences for the House of Commons were devastating, a smoking void in the heart of the palace where the debating chamber used to lie.

Rebuilding during the war was impossible. Yet Winston Churchill, pictured left, was keen to have a plan approved immediately, predicting that post-war politics might be "very fierce and violent" and therefore a poor time to make decisions about a building he saw as vital in shaping the nation's character. "We shape our buildings and afterwards our buildings shape us," he said, before arguing passionately for the Commons to be restored "in all essentials to its old form, convenience and dignity".

Of particular importance were the shape and the size. The semicircular amphitheatres favoured by most other nations were dismissed as alien to the British tradition of two-party democracy.

The Chamber, Churchill insisted, should be deliberately too small for all members to fit in without overcrowding, lest it lose its unique "intimacy".

It took the first woman Member of Parliament, Nancy Astor, to point out that this design might also have other effects, arguing: "I have often felt that it might be better if ministers and ex-ministers did not have to sit and look at each other, almost like dogs on a leash, and that controversy would not be so violent [in a semicircular chamber]." A sentiment perhaps more in tune with the Coalition spirits of our time.

Relocation, too, was raised. The leader of the Independent Labour Party, James Maxton, argued that the chamber should be left ruined as a historic testament to the war. He suggested building a modern, new Parliament instead, 20 miles outside of London "in good English parkland" and furnished with a railway station, car park and aerodrome of the "biggest scale" possible. Unfortunately for Maxton, his colleagues did not share his vision, with Tory grandee Maurice Petherwick fearing a "Potters Bar Canberra".

In 1943, what Churchill wanted, he got. As a result, we still have our Commons debating chamber so admired around the world.

Today, we need to think the same way. Improvements are needed to this early Victorian monument if our Parliamentary democracy is going to function properly. But it certainly should not cost the £3 billion some are punting around. We should move out for a couple of years while the asbestos is dealt with, the subsidence sorted, and the wiring replaced. And then head back into the bear-pit.

But the real opportunity comes with the temporary relocation. As I understand it, Stoke-on-Trent City Council are looking to vacate the Civic Centre from 2015. Why not move the Palace of Westminster to the King's Hall? Who knows, they might just stay.

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  • Profile image for truestokie

    by truestokie

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 2:41PM

    “WE HAVE only been back at work a week,
    This from a toff that would not know a days work if it bit him on the backside, along with the rest of the parasitic lice in Westminster.”

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    by Matt_Bennett

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 2:24PM

    “Oh just brilliant, i have asked Mr Tristram Hunt MP for help with an issue i am having, judging by these comments i am not in for much luck!!!”

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    by Johntoe

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 2:14PM

    “Come Mr Hunt, respond to questions being put to you please,
    Some of these people are your constituents, Some of them will have voted for you, helped you to get YOUR job and secured YOUR future, (not I, although a 59 year old life long Labour voter, I moved out of Stoke on trent 4 years ago)
    NowTHEY are concerned about their jobs and their futures (if they have either) What will your party (Tory lite) do to counter the vindictive class war being waged against them by this unelected 'Tory' government?
    I think they just 'might' be ever so slightly more interested in hearing more from you on that topic, than they are about the state of an old building in London,
    OR, are we to expect another betrayal of the working-class when Tory lite get elected again?
    Lets face it, all they need to do at the moment to get elected is to not be the Tory party,
    Well, that's NOT nearly good enough,”

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    by Martha_Tydfil

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 1:18PM

    “Tristram Julian William Hunt FRHistS

    He's a historian. It's what he does.

    He's not qualified to do anything else.

    All the political stuff is picked up along the way, a bit like on-the-job training.

    He can't related to the people of Stoke having being parachuted into the area so comes out with stuff like this to keep his name to the fore and justify his presence.

    And this is not an anti-Labour comment, most of the Conservative and Lib-Dem politicians are of the same ilk.

    No wonder we're in the mess we are in...”

  • Profile image for stokemaveric

    by stokemaveric

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 12:38PM

    “what a complete and utter waste of an article,we are not botherd that parliament is falling down the people of stoke on trent have more pressing things to think about..like how to make ends meet,how to afford to pay the rip off council tax,jobs,looking after and providing for the family... get in the real world mr hunt...and start fighting for the people of this area who have lost jobs and the disabled and the pensioners who are being nailed by this govt..”

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    by truestokie

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 10:20AM

    “Is this moron on drugs?
    Does he realy believe what worries Stokies is Parliament falling down?
    God most people hope it does with him and his parasitic mates in it.
    What does he actualy do for this city?
    Does he know where Stoke is?”

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    by mole10

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 9:20AM

    “Oh, rubythursday, did you have to say: 'give us our own history please'?

    He'll be like a kid in a candy shop now.

    He'll be scribbling on bits of paper throughout the night now.

    Josiah will be begging to be left alone.”

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    by theartbay

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 9:17AM

    “The other day on a local radio station Tristram Hunt MP was giving his views on the Lidice Shall Live campaign and that of his Stoke Central predecessor MP Sir Barnett Stross, a tireless activist who worked very hard to improve the lot of the people of this area. The presenter summed up by suggesting here was a man for him, as an elected representative, to aspire to. Judging from articles like this and others I've seen he seems disconnected from his constituents and unconcerned about the future of the city.”

  • Profile image for 77Sparkie

    by 77Sparkie

    Monday, September 10 2012, 7:57PM

    “Whatever happens, don't suggest that parliament be relocated, even for the duration of remedial works. The folks on this forum would be up in arms!”

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    by rubythursday

    Monday, September 10 2012, 6:46PM

    “all the time i was reading this i was waiting for the local link, given that you are mp for stoke on trent and given that stoke on trent council wish to abandon our local government offices in stoke.

    can we please have our own history?

    maybe then we will be able to understand why our civic centre is to be redundant after being built less than 25years ago.”

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