Has Stoke City the capacity for change?

“I went on Wikipedia to look up stoke managers, I highly recommend it. Before you do, have a guess at who has the highest win rate.
I'd like to see what you think”

“What is really amazing Pottyrules is that undeniable truth does not register in that tiny mind of yours. Fact is that Lou's teams never got near a 20'000 average crowd. I know you never went to Stoke at the time so I forgive you for not knowing what you are talking about (just like now really}.”

“funny how all the glory hunter fans started going to the Britt as soon as we got into the Prem eh johnson ?? Where were they all before that ? Not watching Lou Macari's team according to you! It's Tony Pulis that has drawn them all in I'm sure !!
Amazing !!”

“Google it if you like Stokielad but my memory serves me right. You don't forget a season like that and I even remember that the WBA game was a midweek game and there were a couple of thousand locked out, whichever team won the game went top so that helped swell the crowd. Facts are facts so write what you want but you will still be wrong. The fact is that Lou's teams, as good as they were, never got near a 20,000 average crowd. Like it or lump it but the last 5 years are the most successful since Tony Waddington's best days.”

“jswords how fantastic to be in a Stoke crows of 46,000 I cannot imagine how it must have felt.
To me this answer to the the attendance problem is simple, fill one corner in for now and start to improve the way we play If 46,000 Stoke fans have been there before they will always be there they just need tempting back. If the football improved at the Brit gates would start to pass the 30,000 mark on a regular basis”

“I wasnt even born in 75 JS, my following started under magic mick mills (joke). It felt great being a stokie under Macari. The atmosphere was there, the never give up attitude was there and we attacked up until the final whistle. Even deep into injury time we seemed to pull a goal out of the bag.
I'm not a rose tinted fan by any means, and im certainly no glory hunter who only came out of the woodwork when we got promoted, infact ive seen far more games in the lower league's with stoke than i have in the prem but the football under macari just seemed better, all be it just wasnt in the top tier.”

“I don't know how far you go back Stokielad but I recall in 1975,
as a 12 year old, Stoke at home to Liverpool, a crowd at the old
Vic of around 46,000, watch Stoke win 2-0.
Vintage performance from Hudson and great game.
That was worth double the entrance fee.
Not quite the same fare these days at the Brit.”

“Dave I was there at the vic, only missed a handful of games during macari's time. The crowds were bouncing. You must have a fantastic memory to know what the crowds were off the top of your head going back so many years, or have you been looking up on google. As from my memory there were many more than 20k at a match.”

“"And for Peter Coates to mitigate that they will see how season ticket sales go before they make a final decision on upping the capacity to 30,172 is almost tantamount to emotional blackmail". Or it could just be common sense Kev ? Something that Coates has a lot of, unlike your good self.
Stokielad, I'm afraid your comments about crowds during Lou's time at Stoke are utter rubbish. I went to every home game in our division 2 promotion season and we only got more than 20,000 a few times. One was because we played the Vale and one was our last game of the season. The only time the ground was full was when we played WBA and the winners (Stoke) would go top. That crowd was swelled by a large Baggies following with many turned away. Our season average was was only about 16,500 even with Steino scoring for fun. If you don't know your clubs history you can always use Google.”

“Those West Ham fans should be in one of the corners and Stoke fans behind that goal”