Reflecting on past Empire no way to honour modern heroes

“Land of Hope and Glory......

Rule Britannia -Britannia Rule the Waves ......

An Englishman's home is his castle,
And for many that's now one big hassle,
With a mortgage to pay,
And his job gone away,
And his wife thinks she's just a spare vassal.”

“"We are in the EU because it suits us to be in it.
We pay full dues and receive around 50% of it back"

Who says it suits us? It doesnt seem to be.

Why not keep 100% and concentrate on UK? Besides, I guarentee that figure of 50% to be false in the current economic turmoil. As Europes powers have increased so have our import %. We now import a higher % than we export. Again, unsustainable.

"We pay to have a say and vote on the direction of the biggest market place on earth." - We do need this market place NOW, because we have no manufacturing in the country. A backbone we need to build strong foundations and the jobs that come with it create a good civil morality and work ethic. (Also more disposable income thus shops and business benifit).

"We are a Parliamentary democracy where we decide our voice every five years and we need not consult the general public on matters not concerning any constitutional changes to the way Britain operates." - David Cameron and Co are doing an excellent job arnt they.. oh so did Tony Blair. The money people who can secure places of such high authority are the people in charge so dont kid yourself its fair.

Yes, Greece need help. But , and a very good saying from my Grandad, 'look to yourself before turning to anyone else' - the Greeks have smashed up cities across their country, while in a financial disaster, seemingly to continue to kick the can and carry one. It was not me, you or anyone else ordinary that landed Greece in such turmoil but yet we are expected to help a bail out? Why? Through the good of our hearts? Even our own govt offers no help to British strugglers, they increase a tax and put more pressure on us.

So Europe is a good idea. But its all it is, too many conflicting cultures and ways of life, idea's and econmic systems that ultimatly cannot be controlled.

- It would also help if polititions were straight talking.”

“We are in the EU because it suits us to be in it.
We pay full dues and receive around 50% of it back.
We pay to have a say and vote on the direction of the biggest market place on earth.
Europe is very much something we need as we are European first and foremost and the EU gives us much more than a serving Empire once did.
We are a Parliamentary democracy where we decide our voice every five years and we need not consult the general public on matters not concerning any constitutional changes to the way Britain operates.
A depression similar to the 1930's has returned because we allow fellow Europeans too much flexibility (and lies) to spend however they like and not caution them under collective fiscal rules of which is the sole answer to this current crisis.
Every effort should be made to help our fellow Europeans in Greece to come out the other side financially stable and any talk of offloading them should be suspect.

Being independent of the Euro offered no protection whatsoever and we hide behind the falsehood that £ sterling gives us a comfort zone of protection from nasty Europeans and a nasty unworkable currency.
This is wrong and only gave us QE which we pay a fortune to sustain.
Not only that, we pay a similar fortune through the back-door of the IMF while the politicians who sign the cheques rant on not giving in to Europe and the EU.
It's a lie.”

“And as for Greece, if they finally make a coailition government and are successfully bailed out, how long until Spain come with their hands out as they are in serious trouble.

The EU doesnt work, as we are finding out. Its costing us a lot more than anyone else too. So wheres the fairness in it all.”

“Independant of the Euro so why be involved in the EU?

Regardless of any other nation, the ultimatle problem lies with the banks and society. The loan culture of the 21st century is tottally unsustainable. As proved.

We need a complete reform in goverment policies and more delegation to your ordinary working class people - as from my experience these are the people 99% of the time are correct.

Europe isnt something we need, and in circumstances like Greece - we should have a national vote wether to help or not. Consult the country, before anyone else.

Running a country is like running a business, its customers are the people. The purpose of business is to please the customer... and are you a pleased one at this moment in time? I am not.

Maybe my history could be better with regards to 1930's - but all i know is my Grandad has said for 10 years now that one day it will go back to the 1930's and there will be real doeses of poverty the likes of which only my grandads generation can remember.”

“Britain is independent of the Euro and offers us no protection whatsoever from any currency on earth.
The protectionism you crave is a known failure of the 1930's which also saw depression years.
If Greece doesn't get its 13bn Euro bailout, courtesy of you, then it could go bust to the tune of 300bn Euros which will crash Britain into the stone age.
I'm all for deporting criminals but proof would be nice.”

“I vote for UKIP. Europe controls us, we're in a economic crisis and need to be independant to sort our OWN problems out, before offering billions in aid to others.

I do respect the logic and idea behind the EU, but ultimatly in this day an age where terrorists cant be deported without going through thr european courts of human rights takes the ****. Its a scape-goat for scum and expensive for us.”

“Who's taking history away?
That would be the greatest achievemnet of all and truly remarkeable.
The Empire was abandoned long ago and replaced with the more superior Common Market, now the EU.
It must grate you to think that your world relies on a liberalist left wing idea but you must be very proud, surely, that no bloodshed is made in its progress.
The Empire was yesterday but today and tomorrow is the EU and ever more towards fiscal solidarity.
Surely Comrade, you wish it well?”

“As I KEEP saying this is the left-wing and there nothing jobs!!!

The British Empire was hands down the greatest achievement in the history of mankind. For a country the size of Britiain and its population to conquer as much as they did is incredable and I for one can take great pride knowing my ancestors were involved.

The world over - people, ESPECIALLY IGNORANT & ARROGANT POLITICALLY CORRECT LEFT-WING, fail to recognise how much the British have influenced the whole world. No other country has achieved ANYTHING like Great Britain and considering the size of the UK... it is hands down the greatest achievement in man-kind.

So to take away any of that, is taking away your history.

The blood-shed, terrible as it may have been was just something that came with that time of the world. People wanted to build empires.

"However, that is now history" - And History is something never to be forgotten. Those good dead British who made the empire as a good as me, you or anyone else. Least we forget.

I can rant and rant and rant about his. Historys history and that Empire made us what we are today - a country of wealth and material goods.

Never forget your roots. The Empire shows to me the true British spirit that has now gone, and needs to come back. the 'we can do it' attitude'. Look at the places Britian did now have power over now, they are still very far behind the others.

"It is always pleasant to bask in old glories, but it is no way to honour our modern heroes or build a country focused on the global future rather than the colonial past." - Well do look at the past, because the present and what the future has to bring is an unfair society for the decent hard-working people.”

“Germany 'annexing Europe' in a fiscal union?

It would be interesting to hear a view of how the Euro currency is to blame, when clearly it is not.
If fiscal union was in place from the start, then Britain would not be in recession.”