“VFR, slimbad4 and other board admirers

Mr Miller and Mr Deakin were 'elected' on to the board using £500,000 worth of nil paid shares, £150,000 of that now withdrawn (BSI). They in essence voted themselves on to the board as they wouldn't have had enough votes otherwise. We are now in a worse state than when Bratt and Co. were in charge due to increased salary overheads and decreased match day revenue. A company cannot sustain itself on long term contracts with contractual payments up front. Bill Bratts relationship with Melzack, Hooper, Deakin and Miller has made this a mere passing the batton exercise and we have a board equally if not worse than before. Replacing like for like isn't an option and we shouldn't accept that. Those who wanted change were quite adamant what changes would be acceptable (honesty, professional, dynamic business credentials etc) and at no point has the new regime being anywhere near acceptable, although they were given a chance – they failed within their probationary period.

If they do find the £350k needed (from their own bank accounts) not loaned against the club or from other third parties, they still got in on a promise of a £5-8 million 'deal' which, as every other deal in recent history bared no fruit, which many suspected. I have heard there is another 'deal' on its way, no doubt this will be as clear as mud and will result in no money actually being invested into the club.

This could have all been avoided if the wishes of the fans and shareholders had been considered at any point in the last twelve months, it hasn't unfortunately. Thankfully there are enough people without vested interests, agendas or hide behind pseudonyms out there to fight for their club.

I acknowledge that this is a business and that is how it should be run, it hasn't been for the best part of the last ten years. Port Vale needs to have a balanced interim board to oversee all potential investors and directors over a period of time so that the club cannot be 'sold' off to people with track records of destruction within the football community."”

“Vale For Real

As usual making things up, I never commented at all on my shares so Im not sure why you have to make things up again and again, its what you do when you loose a debate, the evidence is plain for all to see.

You have an issue with evidence and facts, I suggest you sort it out my friend.”

“VFR. PR own goal!? You really take the biscuit.
Actually the ONLY reason I posted was because I thought you might have decided to come over from the dark side - you have been absent for a while and I suspected you were contrite or embarrassed. Never mind.”

“Vale_For_Real said

"Have you noticed how the people who are loudest about shares and about how much of other peoples money is in the club are nearly always the ones who have put in very little or absolutly nothing themself?"

tisdeano,

I'll take you more serious when you are not one of those people.

I dont count the pretend share purchase that you "remembered", months after you were first asked, that you suddenly reckoned you had bought years ago in someone elses name.

You have bought the same number of shares as your hero Mo.

Zero.

tisdeano said

"... using the loan signings as evidence that we must have money in the club. Has he any evidence that we are paying any of their wages ?"

Evidence from common sense that a club the size of Stevenage would loan out players if there wages are being paid.

Have you got any evidence there wages are still being paid now by Stevenage?

Or are you just trying to bring everything down again because the club managed to have a good day on Saturday, and the loan players played really well?”

“Slimbad4, Do you think Phil or anyone would be allowed to invest £250k in the Vale? The directors control who buys shares, if you are not in the circle no chance. Who let the twins in? No other than Bratt, Oliver, and Lloyd.”

“Vale for Real, Amazing, it would appear you will accept anything at the Vale, even though 98% disagree with you. Putting you viewpoint tonight at the SC meeting?”

“PompeyValiant,

If you tell me your take on the facts about "what has transpired" then we can discuss it.

My current take is -

Minus - big PR own goal by not announcing there timetable for completing payment for the purchase of the shares they signed up to a couple of monmths ago.

Plus - £350,000 new money is now in the club which has already bought some exciting players who are putting the promotion push back on the rails

Summary - The Plus is much bigger than the Minus.”

“Vale For Real is getting amusing now.

It was not that long ago that he was holding the Sentinel website as a more balanced view of what Vale fans think when compared to OVF, now that the Sentinel website does not agree with his views he is now knocking this site as well.

Perhaps he should stop and think that perhaps his opinions on Vale are now very much in the minority [ as they always were in reality ]

Even now a and in light of recent goings on he is still trusting the word of Miller and Deakin that they have now paid actual cash for their shares and using the loan signings as evidence that we must have money in the club. Has he any evidence that we are paying any of their wages ?”

“Have you noticed how the people who are loudest about shares and about how much of other peoples money is in the club are nearly always the ones who have put in very little or absolutly nothing themself?

Same with the protesters who are fired up about trying push the club into administration, they dont give a monkeys because they've got nothing to lose, they have never put anything into the club shares any time over the whole of the last 10 or 11 years.

Heres there attitude towards people who have put in serious money to Vale -

"Even if they have now paid for their shares ... it changes nothing."

Course it doesnt, a new £350,000 investment falls of the tree every day, it makes no difference at all if the club now has that sort of new money or not, does it?

The only people who can think in this puddled fashion are either the ones who have never run any business at all so they think that just shouting the odds is the same as going out and acheiving something in the real world.

Or the ones who really dont give a d*mn anyway what harm they do to OUR club.”

“So The Port Vale Supporters Club Dont Want Bratt,Dont Want Mo Chaudry,Dont Want Oliver,Dont Want Lloyd Now Dont Want Deakin Or Miller

Who Do You Want????? Maybe The Port Vale Supporters Can Find a Jack Walker Or A Rich Arab In Burslem”