Martin Smith: 'We're not continually last on Match of the Day by accident'

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Wednesday, March 06, 2013
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OUR defeat by West Ham sparked an unmistakable shift in fans' reaction as many openly voiced their dismay at Stoke's performance.

It's been coming for a while.

  1. Stoke City manager Tony Pulis

    UNDER PRESSURE: Stoke City manager Tony Pulis.

Not that the criticism was aimed at the players. No, it was manager Tony Pulis who bore the brunt of the dissatisfaction.

It was all very sad, and something I don't think any of us wanted to see at Stoke again.

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We've had this sort of thing all too often down the years, but we can't pretend it didn't happen or that it shouldn't be discussed in an open and frank way.

The catalyst for what happened was not just the defeat, but also the latest in a series of below-par displays.

Yet again, we didn't really create any chances as the goalscoring woes which haunted us last season returned to trouble us again.

Like many Stokies, I had high hopes for this season. We had no European distractions and the owners had again dipped deep into their pockets to give TP the players he wanted.

And there were promising signs early on. We played pretty well in games at Stamford Bridge and Old Trafford, and again dug deep to take a point from Manchester City.

These highlights have been few and far between though.

Our away record has been bitterly disappointing, and even in those games where we've got a result we've rarely looked all that convincing.

We had hoped for a top-10 finish, but some are now beginning to worry that we might get sucked into a relegation battle.

The problem Stoke have is that the 90 minutes are all about the result, nothing else.

This is because TP continues to pursue an approach that seeks to kill off games rather than go out to win them.

When we get a decent result, people are prepared to tolerate the poor football, but when you take away the result, as happened on Saturday, there's nothing left.

Yes, football is a results-driven business, but not to the detriment of everything else. It must also entertain and inspire.

It's true, of course, that we'd rather see a dull 1-0 win than a thrilling 4-3 defeat, but there is such a dearth of entertainment in most of our games that after a while it can wear you down.

We're not continually last on Match of the Day by accident. It is our deliberate approach which is responsible.

And no matter how much TP and others try to perpetuate the "plucky underdogs" philosophy, this is no longer the case. This is not 2008.

If we'd been getting by on Blackpool's budget and being out-spent by all and sundry, who could complain?

However, we are big transfer movers in our peer group, and in terms of net spending we're right up there in the top three or four of the Premier League.

To the eternal credit of our owners, we have invested a lot of money in the team, but we haven't noticeably improved over the past couple of years.

If anything, we've gone backwards, and our terrible goalscoring record is a by-product of that.

We were the lowest scoring team in the country last season, and only QPR have scored fewer goals than us in the Premier League this term.

And this despite paying a record £8m for a striker in 2010 and then spending £10m on another striker, to effectively replace that record signing, just a year later.

And when TP himself says his strikers need service to be at their best, then all that does is raise more questions about our lack of wingers and creative midfielders to provide that ammunition. TP seemed genuinely upset when responding to the inevitable questions about the crowd's reaction to the West Ham loss, and it's not surprising he should talk about the past achievements of the club and five years of stability in the Premier League.

However, I think he was wrong to talk about the sensible fans understanding this and of other fans needing to take a "reality check".

In fact the vast majority of fans are fully in touch with reality, and almost every one I've spoken to is appreciative of what we've had in recent years and where we've come from.

But they also pay a large part of their income to be entertained on a Saturday, and don't feel they're getting that.

It's not about a lack of appreciation or people expecting too much. It is simply about the football ... or the lack of it. That is what needs to be addressed.

The truth is, we have it in ourselves to do something about this. All the bad feeling and frustration could be washed away with a better standard of football.

We showed against Liverpool, where TP's team were absolutely magnificent, that we can play great football, but we have to go out there and do it.

We have to be more interested in trying to win games instead of effectively stifling our own creativity by doing all we can not to lose them.

We just have to be more positive and get ahead in games rather than only playing after we've gone a goal behind or when we make our predictable 65th-minute substitutions.

But it seems all we are about is grinding out survival, reaching that 40-point "safety" target. This is important, of course, but survival and a decent standard of football are not mutually exclusive.

And TP should stop worrying so much about "managing expectations" and focus just on managing the team.

Increased expectations are a natural result of progress, a compliment really, and only natural in light of the money we have spent.

But even then, at least 95 per cent of our supporters are still grounded enough to understand that a club like Stoke City, with our resources and fan base, are unlikely to be breaking into the top six.

However, they do expect their team to be playing better football than they are right now after five years in the Premier League and a massive investment in players.

We'll have our ups and downs for sure, but fans believe the standard of what they're watching has to be better.

This is what Saturday's woes boil down to, and it's nothing that can't still be retrieved.

I value and treasure the stability we've enjoyed at Stoke City in recent years, and genuinely believe it still offers us our best way forward for the immediate future. But it'll be extremely difficult to go on as we are right now.

So here's hoping for a positive change at Newcastle this weekend. One good performance is all that's needed to lift the gloom, and we definitely have it within us to deliver.

TP has done a lot for this club in recent years, more than we could ever have imagined possible. But it's now time for him to show he can do even more.

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    by Rookeryboy

    Friday, March 08 2013, 12:41PM

    “Excellent article
    It's about time the press and especially the radio began to ask the obvious and urgent questions, rather than simpering Nigel and his, "the natives are restless, what would you like to say to them?"
    Ask the questions
    Why does he play players out of position
    Why does he always pick out of form Walters
    Why does he still use the cage
    Why is he so negative
    Why does he kill every game
    Why does he shout at all the players every second of the game - it's not normal - is he unwell?
    Why doesn't he just s#d off
    I'm sick and tired of local radio refusing to ask any questions which might expose him as a division 2 manager - are they so scared that they dare not? What would happen?

    Like many supporters I'm sick and tired of watching rubbish. We have good players, what else could possibly be wrong??????????????”

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    by stokieme

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 10:56AM

    “This article is spot on and highlights Mr Negative Pulis's anti-football tactics that went out of style in the 70's.

    Pulis always sets out to kill off a game and defend in the slim hope of nicking a goal from a set piece. The number of goals we score from open play is the worst ever in the league. I have been a season ticket holder for 12 years, but I am not renewing for next season. I can no longer sit there and watch the boring rubish Pulis offers fans.”

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    by Dave1904

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 7:34AM

    “My sense is that if TP would at least take some personal responsibility for the performances and poor results, and acknowledge that he has made mistakes it would go someway to placate some fans. Instead he continues to blame referees, bad luck, players and now fans.
    This willful reluctance to admit to his own failings gives me no confidence that he is learning from his mistakes and has the where with all to change.
    PC is no fool and will not sack TP at this stage of the season. If he did the chances are the only available alternative would be Dave Kemp. Such radical change now to the management structure would be too disruptive, and potentially damaging. Such decisions should never be rushed and preferably be made in the cold light of day of the closed season.
    I think fans should continue to back the team trying to remain positive and then see where we are at the end of the season.”

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    by MCassidy2

    Thursday, March 07 2013, 4:45AM

    “Have Norwich spent as much money on players as TP has? The answer is a resounding NO. Therefore, does that mean that Stoke play better football than Norwich? The answer, again, is a resounding NO. So, who above all is responsible for the insipid play of Stoke at this moment? Easy, its TP. Sometimes, managers get to a point when they have spent too long at a club (including Arsene) and the same messages become boring to the players. Conclusion: Its time to go TP and let someone else be in charge.”

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    by Potterspeil

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 9:05PM

    “Yet another accurate article from Martin on the 'state of the union' as it stands and one which most level headed supporters would concur with?

    Darley-In the modern game there's no place for sentimentality or living on past achievements in the world of football managers. If that was the case, Dalglish would still be at Liverpool, Di Matteo at Chelsea, Adkins at Southampton and so on.

    Maybe Liverpool, Chelsea and Soton fans may disagree with you on that one? I think a significant number of their fans would say that change hasn't been necessarily for the better, nor would Bolton, Wolves, Blackpool fans etc.

    The end of the season is a time for change now as we haven't moved on, but only if the right replacement is available. Coates isn't stupid and he will surely realise that, but now is not the time for us to start booing our manager and our players and those days should be behind us?”

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    by bcbg16

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 8:19PM

    “Coffield you complete idiot.Yes it does take 2-3 yrs to get the side as you want it,this idiot has had twice that and yet we are watching the worst football in the history of the Premier league,grow a pair mate and say it as it is we are a poor side at best,spent more money than most champions league sides and thats why we are where we are and not because of anything to do with Pulis.If you gave my mother in law £130m she would perhaps been able to keep us in the Prem !!!!!”

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    by darleystokie

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 5:57PM

    “An excellent article. In the modern game there's no place for sentimentality or living on past achievements in the world of football managers. If that was the case, Dalglish would still be at Liverpool, Di Matteo at Chelsea, Adkins at Southampton and so on. A manager is judged on about his last ten matches and by this criteria Pulis is on dodgy ground. I can imagine our fans reaction if nothing changes in the next few weeks. After all, this club is part of our lives. We will all be supporting Stoke long after all the present squad are wearing different shirts and the manager and his staff are long gone.”

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    by roob57

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 4:05PM

    “@coffield
    George Graham was one of the best defensive coaches of modern times during his days as Arsenal manager but they still managed to score loads of goals, Alan Smith scoring 20 a season with help from a creative midfield of Merson and Rocastle.
    Building a good defence does not mean parking the bus.”

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    by Pottersruleok

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 2:28PM

    “Besides the title to this article it was very well written and straight to the point. Just like some fans still harken back to our teams in the 70's and the success enjoyed then, so do fans now harken back to Pulis getting us promoted and getting us to an FA Cup final. Buti n 5 years, that is pretty much it for him. We played better, scored more, got more points and finished higher in the league in our first 2 seasons when we were supposedly struggling than we have after spending massive amounts of money and supposedly evolving in the past 3. Our style of play has devolved if nothing else as witnessed by our bizarre number of goals conceded earlier in the season while basically bringing in nothing but headlines. But the even more bizarre inability to score goals over the past 3 seasons clearly points out Pulis' shortcomings of defending while trying not to lose. Good teams usually find a hole somewhee even if we defend with 10 men.
    One would have to say that Asmir Begovic should be our run away player of the season of this or any other since being in the Prem because without his fine goalkeeping we could well be in the bottom 3 right now!”

  • Profile image for roob57

    by roob57

    Wednesday, March 06 2013, 2:15PM

    “Pulis is a Championship/Div 1 manager who is out of his depth in the Premiership.”

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