Lou Macari: Valencia success is big ask, but Stoke can pull it off

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Tuesday, February 14, 2012
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STOKE City have come a long way in the Europa League – all the way from FC Thun to Valencia.

While just about every Stoke fan was scrambling to see which country Thun were from, never mind where in that country, we all know Valencia need no introduction.

It's a huge occasion for the Potteries to have such a big name like that coming to town.

Think about it for too long and you can fall into the trap of thinking Stoke have no chance and should feel honoured just to be on the same football pitch.

That might even have been my attitude until about five years ago.

But for one reason or another I've been watching much more European football during that time and come to the conclusion that, against almost any continental opposition, English clubs have a great chance over two legs.

A lot of these teams are in decline because they are struggling to replace ageing players with good young players coming through.

So the name and the reputation is not always in sync with the actual strength of the team.

True, Valencia are third in La Liga, which some will say is the strongest league in the world, but they are miles behind Real Madrid and Barcelona in my opinion.

And there's no way they would be third in the Premier League.

I'm not exactly saying Valencia are pushovers, and they must start as favourite over the two legs, but what I am saying is that there's no reason why Stoke should show them too much respect either.

Stoke must simply stick to what they are good at.

That means ripping into the game from start to finish if they can because Spanish teams are not used to that kind of tempo over a whole 90 minutes.

Nor are they used to being pushed and shoved around at set-pieces by a car load of six-foot plus strikers and defenders.

It's probably no coincidence that a player like Peter Crouch has such a good record in Europe for his clubs and even further afield for England.

They just aren't used to giant players leaning into them and knocking them off their stride every other second.

What Stoke clearly can't do is play to Valencia's tempo because they will simply get played off the park.

The crowd have an important role in generating the kind of atmosphere in which Stoke's game, that aerial bombardment of theirs, can thrive.

But I'm sure the Stoke faithful will be well up for it on Thursday because these games don't exactly come along every other week.

Robert Huth won't have any problems returning to the fold after all the fall-out over that red card of his against Sunderland. He's far too experienced for that.

His aerial power will be more crucial in Valencia's box than his own because of Stoke's set-pieces and because the Spaniards won't be knocking too many long balls towards the home area. It's just not their style.

We are all wondering just how strong a team Valencia will bring with them to the Potteries.

I reckon pretty strong, if not their strongest line-up, because you find that foreign opposition really do respect the Premier League.

And because of that respect for our clubs, they see any victory over them as a feather in their cap.

I don't expect to see Valencia playing much of a pressing game, whoever they select, so Stoke will have time to build from the back if they choose.

What Huth an Co mustn't do, of course, is give any silly and unnecessary free-kicks away because you can bet Valencia can make them pay within range of goal.

The referee can be so important on occasions like this because of his interpretation of certain situations.

Stoke must hope he's one of those who's a little more lenient and is prepared to let one or two things go.

If not, and if he's the sort to blow if Ryan Shawcross so much as breathes on Roberto Soldado, then that will clearly suit Valencia far more than Stoke.

That said, from what I've seen of Valencia, they aren't the worst offenders in Spanish football when it comes to play-acting and hoodwinking the referee.

I just hope I'm saying the same after Thursday evening.

Can Stoke win and get through to the final 16 of the Europa League?

It's a big ask, but yes they certainly can.

To do it, though, they don't just need a good result this week, but a very good result.

Winning by a couple of goals could be a necessity because of the size of task awaiting them in the Mestalla next week.

But as I say, Valencia are not really the daunting challenge they once were.

You can do it Stoke.

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    by G_Best

    Thursday, February 23 2012, 10:34AM

    “In the end of the day the smartest will win. Valencia lost 5-1 in the last game. They are psychologically down. Stoke City first goal. HT/FT Stoke City win.

    Stoke City is like a Submarine TORPEDO!!!!”

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    by JTFLINT2009

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 9:56PM

    “I don't ever believe in putting ourselves down but I do believe Valencia deserve more credit than to compare them to the SPL (minus Celtic and Rangers). They have got some good players - be thankful Villa, Silva and Mata left before this season! - but as Pottedrengen says they aren't of the quality of Barca so we shouldn't worry about it quality-wise. However, they will pass the ball, no doubt about it. It's a case of us winning the ball back when they get it, which is one of several areas where we've been lacking lately! If we can stop Albeida, Topal, Costa, Banega or whoever plays in the centre from spraying passes out wide to Feghouli and Mathieu then it'll make it much harder for them - don't forget when we've been at our best defensively it's because we've forced teams to attack us centrally rather than allowing them to attack via the wings.

    Good news they'll be playing Barca again as well! Hopefully they'll be cream-crackered by the time they get back to the Mestalla!”

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    by Pottedrengen

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 4:16PM

    “It's so typical of the British. They still think their teams are the best in the world and the rest of the world are just washed up hopeless beggars.

    That said I think Stoke has a great chance of upsetting the odds. With our recent record no one can expect us to beat Valencia, who are definitely a lot better than whoever is currently third in Scotland. They're better than Celtic too. I personally see them as on par with Tottenham, but then that's one of the few teams we've beaten recently ...

    But I've been watching them a lot recently, and in some games they've struggled to string passes together, and if they are moody as they often are, they can be vulnerable as a team.

    Then they had two tight games against Barca recently in the cup, and they just happen to meet them again on Sunday while we are facing Crawley. That Barca game will be a whole lot more important to the players who have revenge on their minds. So that could also work in our favour.”

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    by angusmac43

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 3:34PM

    “You've got it right soccerfoot. Be proud of the badge. This is "STOKE CITY FOOTBALL CLUB" Make sure that they have respect for us. Go too it.”

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    by markinspain

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 3:13PM

    “wouldnt it be great if we had a proper manager in charge for these ties some one like ian hollaway from blackpool who would give it a good go not like ours who is gonna play 8 at the back and walters up front .”

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    by soccerfoot11

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 1:10PM

    “Spain is like Scotland, a 2 team country with a small handful of pretty teams below them, that one being Valencia. If we go into this game thinking we are just little old Stoke and in awe of the mighty Valencia then we will lose handily home and away. If we go into it thinking like we should that we are Stoke, a Premier league team that can play against anybody then we will have a good chance of winning !”

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    by Pottedrengen

    Tuesday, February 14 2012, 12:05PM

    “"A lot of these teams are in decline because they are struggling to replace ageing players with good young players coming through."

    That might just be the most precise description of where and what Stoke is at right now, never mind what Valencia and other overseas clubs are doing. Clearly the German and Spanish models of nourishing youth players haven't been noticed at Macarii's house, and the remarkable sucesses of those models must somehow have passed him by as well.

    (I'll return later in the day with more comment when I have more time at my hands).”

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