“face doesn;t fit ,my comments were directed at the career breeders, not people who have kids out of love of the child rather than the benefits they earn.The reason the government hasn;t helped you is because you are probably a genuine case”

“A non-story. I'm bemused by people like Alan, Staffs and their nonsensical stereotypical view on the world. In this city it' the Asians that pay their way and the whites that claim benefits.”

“Rob, agreed. No-one can seriously disagree that we simply can't go on like this indefinitely, unless we increase the working age for senior citizens to even higher than the coming changes of 69 years for men & 65 for women. Will we all soon have to work to well over 70 to keep the status quo?

Govt can push the people only so far. Any further & I can see even more people who can afford to simply emigrating for a better & fairer life elsewhere. As for shortage of housing stock": problems are that as well as over-generous child benefits for those who breed but NEVER work, common sense tells us that we need to drastically cut immigration until we can at least provide adequate housing for people already living here. Nothing racist about that realism. Also, doing something about all the empty homes throughout the land would help greatly.”

“Rob,The bone idle scroungers can't live on the benefits for two kids,All this will do is give them more reason to keep on breeding,So they can get , MORE BENEFITS.
The state should pay for two children, If they want anymore they should pay for them themselves like normal people who have some moral fibre.
Before you numbnuts jump in,
I am not talking about the genuine claimants,I am on about the dossers who have made the benefit system their lifestyle,and have no intention of finding work,”

“It is our over genorous benefits system that is at fault, people are paid to keep producing kids, some people, again agreeing with Ivan, white, black and asian see kids as an additional income.

At present the more kids you have the more you get paid, so these people keep having them, knowing the mugs who work will continue to support their numbers of kids, then they maon and want bigger houses.

I work and have paid to own my 3 bed house, with just 2 kids, my wife also works. We decided to have kids but have paid our own way. Because of that my lads do not get things like EMA, while those kids of parents who have never worked get £30 a week.

Now they want even bigger houses so they can have even more kids, well fine if you want but pay for them yourself.”

“Rob, Castle, do you live in Newcastle or do you in fact live in a castle. Your comments are either single man syndrome or somebody has been fortunate in life. Yes , I have 3 children , live in private rented, overcrowded and unable to climb the ladder to afford something a bit better.
I was once even owned a 4 bed property , but serious illness and uncaring mortgage companies ( Nothern Rock ) , cost me my families happiness and comfort.
Now ive spent the last 4 years repaying a £19,000 debt, with no goverment help or assistance, i would just like a bit of an olive branch . I work , work and work again. Im not uneducated or simple , i work within an organistaion that works with the council but still the council, are very unhelpful because they see my career title and assume that i am comfortable. Ill even go the xtra mile and tell you that im a local bobby , which puts me in a very awkward position , especially when living in a poor area , putting up with the usual abuse re my career. But what am i to do . The wallet will stretch and the council will not assist. Does anybody wish to let their 3 or 4 bed out to me ?
Life is what you make it, its tough but you keep going and im more fortunate than most and i have very little other than the love of my wife and children ( who dont mind sharing 1 bedroom).”

“The solution is simple,if you only have room for 2 kids don't have 10”

“Rob, I agree with you to a degree. My point is that the residents on most HA/council estates with very large families claiming benefits, aren't usually Asian. From what I see in Shelton, many (not all of course) Asian families own their homes & work for a living. Whereas a great number of those so-called very large families woo live exclusively on benefits, happen to be either indigenous white or black/mixed race.

I don't know all the reasons why this is the case, so I'm not apportioning blame on everybody. Maybe it's a long-term legacy of widespread destruction of local industries over the years like pottery, mining, steel, etc., but whatever the reasons, at least in this area, those are pretty much the general facts.”

“Thanks Anon, Stoke for the info re overcrowding, that table was pretty complex but it's pretty much what I'd have thought, any more than 2 to a room is a problem. Let's hope if the building of bigger houses goes well in this area it will be extended to other areas as well and hopefully the council will get its act together re making sure people are in the right size houses to meet their needs. Not holding my breath though!”

“Thanks Anon, Stoke for the info re overcrowding, that table was pretty complex but it's pretty much what I'd have thought, any more than 2 to a room is a problem. Let's hope if the building of bigger houses goes well in this area it will be extended to other areas as well and hopefully the council will get its act together re making sure people are in the right size houses to meet their needs.”