Gritter drivers quit over pay row with Stoke-on-Trent City Council

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THIRTY-TWO gritter drivers have quit their jobs in a row over pay cuts – sparking fears of a winter roads crisis.

Their decision means Stoke-on-Trent City Council is heading into winter with just eight drivers on call for its gritting wagons.

  1. Gritting operations in Stoke-on-Trent

    Gritting operations in Stoke-on-Trent

  2. Duncan Walker of the GMB union

    Warning: Duncan Walker of the GMB union

It follows a move to cut £40,000 from the £480,000 winter maintenance bill by axing payments to drivers for being on standby.

Fears have been raised that the council may have to draft in costly agency workers – or leave streets without grit.

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The 40 drivers were previously paid to be on a standby rota from October and March, ready to be deployed at the first sign of a cold snap.

But drivers were told they will no longer be compensated for being on standby and will only be paid if they are called in to work. Payments for completing a gritting route have also been cut from a minimum of five hours pay to two hours.

Now 32 of the workers have refused to agree to the new terms.

All gritting drivers are employed in other roles with the council but have signed up for several years to top up their seasonal earnings.

One driver said: "Most of the lads have been doing this for years but they won't anymore.

"If you are on standby you have to change your plans. On Christmas day you can't have a drink. Why should we do it and not get the money?"

City Councillor Duncan Walker, a member of the GMB union which represents the drivers, said: "I wasn't aware of this and don't have the full facts.

"A lot of the drivers also drive bin lorries, and they would run out of the legal hours they are able to do. It would mean either roads not being gritted or bringing in agency workers – and that would cost a fortune because they'd know the council hasn't got any choice."

Council sources today accused drivers of deliberately trying to disrupt winter maintenance plans – and claim no concerns were raised until the day they were asked to sign up for new terms.

The council, which has nine gritting wagons, says it is 'confident' it will have enough cover.

Councillor Ruth Rosenau, cabinet member for transport, said: "Due to the increasingly difficult financial pressures all services are being reviewed. We will now only pay for work done. If it takes five hours they will get paid for five hours, if it takes two hours, they will be paid for two hours. Roads will still be gritted if we get snow."

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  • Profile image for SOT4Q2

    by SOT4Q2

    Wednesday, October 24 2012, 9:39PM

    “Good news folks!!!
    The good people of Stoke on Trent can sleep easy in their beds this winter.
    The council are advertising eight posts for gritter drivers.
    These posts will be filled from the dead wood within the authority
    who are facing possible redundancy.
    No experience of driving gritters in good weather let alone when the
    weather turns nasty.Not a clue on how to fit a snow plough if
    heavy snow arrives.No idea of how to spread the salt efficiently depending on
    road conditions and ensuring enough salt is left to assist other routes.
    All in all i think its going to be a long and arduous winter for the people of Stoke.
    All in the name of cost-cutting and screwing the drivers with years of experience.
    This on top of the farce that is removing contractual overtime from bin wagon drivers.
    They are now paying almost double they were paying drivers through overtime,agency
    staff and fuel costs for extra vehicles.What we shouldnt forget in all of this is the sheer
    inconvenience to the public who are putting their bin out on their designated collection day
    but not getting it collected until the next day.
    The lunatics are definitely running the asylum that is Stoke On Trent City Council.”

  • Profile image for EysTheer

    by EysTheer

    Tuesday, October 09 2012, 12:40AM

    “What are the police doing about it? They seemed to get the blame for everything else and yet no one is blaming them.....”

  • Profile image for mole10

    by mole10

    Monday, October 08 2012, 5:44PM

    “Gary got 800 in his own ward.
    Gary was on holiday when out of the trap.

    Where is Matt Fry's Dresden?”

  • Profile image for SOT4Q2

    by SOT4Q2

    Monday, October 08 2012, 5:44PM

    “@ LabourLen
    Obviously by your earlier comments about how the gritter drivers should accept the new terms and get on with it,you dont hold a current hgv licence and so have no clue about the law pertaining to such a qualification.
    Firstly your mate the jellyfish (no backbone) who signed the new terms tells you that the runs were done in around three hours.Well now there are only eight runs instead of ten each run is 25% bigger,meaning an extra 45 minutes.On top of this the wagons have to be emptied,washed off and refuelled,plus drivers have paperwork to do means nearly five hours.
    Now for the legal bit,after completing their shift during the day,on the bins or highways,which is an eight hour shift,this only gives them three hours of duty time to complete gritting plus the other requirements i mentioned earlier.
    They could complete the runs on previous seasons because they were driving under eu regs allowing upto fifteen hours of duty time,but managers saw fit to change to uk domestic regs which only allows eleven hours duty time.
    Now for the stand-by time you mention.It is quite correct that this will still be paid.
    For being on stand-by in midweek from 3.30 pm until 7.00 am the gritter drivers receive the princely sum of £11.28.
    For being on stand-by for 24 hours at the weekend they receive a kings ransom of £28.94.This is also the case for christmas day,boxing day and new years day.
    Not something to get excited about is it.
    Now i suggest you go back to your mate,the eunuch (no balls) and ask him how on earth he is going to do the gritting legally with the seven other eunuchs who signed up to these ridiculous terms.”

  • Profile image for warren-lloyd

    by warren-lloyd

    Monday, October 08 2012, 5:28PM

    “Gary, come on, I hear you were very proud of the amount of votes you got last time out the traps.”

  • Profile image for mole10

    by mole10

    Monday, October 08 2012, 3:28PM

    “You've never met him?
    That's your loss.
    He was once described as a 'businessman'.
    He tried to shut Dimensions to the tune of £60,000.
    it was very comical.
    Hands went up in support all around him.
    Including other 'businessmen'.
    Even more comical.
    The argument for closure was destroyed in 5 seconds flat( if that).
    Still they wanted it shut down.
    ?????????????????????????
    They were called to account for a second opinion.
    They all voted to shut it down again (that's twice now Warren).
    It didn't make sense to proper businessmen present.
    The police were called.
    They, the 'businessmen' (not to be confused with proper businessmen) decided not to shut it.
    Officers said: "oops, our calculators were wrong".
    £100,000 was alleged to be on it's way from Glebe St. to Festival Park.
    ?????????????? !!!!!!!!!!! ??????????? !!!!!!!!!

    So comical.

    For the record, proper businessmen solved the cash shortfall for and on behalf of the City and customers to dimensions within that 5 seconds.”

  • Profile image for warren-lloyd

    by warren-lloyd

    Monday, October 08 2012, 2:55PM

    “I have never met Mark Meredith, but I'll say this for the man, he's consistently got more votes then Mole10 in elections. How many was it in the last one Gary, 30 what.”

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    by mole10

    Monday, October 08 2012, 2:50PM

    “Lennie, I see you're back to your usual insults but this time you make up the story and then insult me with it.
    Brilliant.
    I'm glad for you that, as loyal apologist for Labour (Labour at any costs), you dislike all things Osborne.
    Unlike Ed balls who agrees almost entirely with his deficit reduction programme (unquote and no word from Stoke Labour on that).

    Now remind us again who is docking the wages of the workers in stoke-on-Trent?
    Is it George Osborne (mentor of Ed Balls) or is it S-o-T Labor Group of Councillors (Ex Elected Mayors/Ex Deputy Elected Mayors and Ex Mayor's Panel and Ex Mayor's Cabinet?

    Shuffle the pack as many times a you like and act to supress any and all internal opposition to them and you'll always get:
    Meredith
    Pervez
    Shotton
    Garner
    and all the usual cutting crew, before the Tories gained power with the Liberals.

    Let your insults flow forth but the truth stares us in the face daily.

    By ther way, how do the girlfriends vote?
    (ho ho ho ho)

    Can I hazard a guess?
    SHUT SHUT SHUT SHUT ("Because Ecker Pickles made us")

    Nope.
    becauase JVL told you and an office boy off the M5 told you.”

  • Profile image for I_Norris

    by I_Norris

    Monday, October 08 2012, 2:29PM

    “Labourlen: most standby arrangements have minium call out be that few or hours which will be the 5 hours and most councils have same stand by arangements for social workers and gritters key holders etc..”

  • Profile image for taskfinish

    by taskfinish

    Monday, October 08 2012, 2:29PM

    “mouthy mac specksavers for i think”

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