Celebs line up for radio version of May Un Mar Lady cartoon

“I don't know any of the people who are involved in this project but to me the comments on this thread have gone off topic.

I would just like to say that the productions are superb, the acting by Mr & Mrs king is sublime and the theme tune is so catchy i want to hear it again and again.

Well done 6towns Radio!”

“Dust 'ear owk, whether thate signin' off er not me owd marra, thay still dusna gerrit.

Un thee dusna 'ave te bay a dunce te bay lite 'arted either. Un dunner staht usin' big words lark 'akademik te justify thee ahrgument. Thes nowt clever abite eet. Thee just aster understand thut it maks mower sense if thee rates dine wot wos spock at the tarme when ow'th folk spock proper Potteries.
Waida o understood it as bayin wot way spock if edt 'ad bin.... un then it wud a bin even funnier -and a lot mo lait 'arted.
Burra know am wastin' me tarme tokin te thay -thay't never gerrit in a million years. A mit as well knock me yed agin a wo, as try un knock sum sense in te tharne.

Un wun last thing weyl arme at eet -do us o a fava, un stop suppoetin them thut misrepresen' are 'eritage.”

“Well it wouldn't have been a much fun the last 20 odd years if all the people of Stoke had to listen to was your serious non progressive academic perspectives. Maybe best to seperate your academic perspectives of things from the cartoon perspective I think as the 'academic' doesn't seem to mix well with the cartoon 'fun' lighthearted endeavours of May un Mar Lady, no surprise there then. Signing out for last time on this to have some more progressive and hopeful 'lighthearted' conversations. 

Remember 'always look on the bright side of life' :) 

I'm sure you'll take great pleasure in correcting the below: enjoy

'OWS THEE LOBBY ?

..... 'EET'S JUST LARKE ME MAM USED TA MAK.........'ER WUZ A LOUSY CEOWK UN 'O !”

“One of the funniest moments I recall re the use of the Potteries dialect, which can illustrate the way in which it can be used to parody an everyday situation, was when I was down at McGuiness's Scrapyard over in Longport -over 30 thirty years ago, at the time the A500 had recently been built, which as you know runs nearby the Scrapyard.
We were milling about in the Office area -waiting to pay for the various bits and parts, and the banter was in full flow, when someone asked Dave (McGuiness) -'Hey Dave, wae do they co'it the 'D'-Road?'
Dave, not a man to rush things, looked up casually and calmly from his 'account books' -and said, 'It's 'cos it's 'ardly used during the nate, but gets chocca during the Dee'.”

“@ Chrishff '...We look forward to reading your book or documentary on the subject and you widening the debate and knowledge on the subject, have you any blogs or anything on the subject? unquote.

To make such a comment -shows that you are not a happy chappy kiddo. When one has grown up with a dialect that was 'as normal as consuming a bowl of lobby on washing day, both seem nothing out of the ordinary, why, when commenting on either -should you expect me obsessed with them -as you are?
When something is put in the newspaper, or on a website like this one -as you have, and it is not correct, am I expected to have written a book on it -or made some sort of 'media blog impact' to qualify for comment? You people 'professionalze the ordinary' to such an extent that it ceases to be ordinary any more -and takes on a life of its own - regardless of fact -historic truth. Just as in the same way Hollywood distorts our history for the sake of 'dramatic effect'.... and box office receipts. Can you see the parallel? Am I helping you to get 'the point'.
Off now -to write that long awaited book on the history of Lobby, just in case someone does a cartoon series on it -and get it all wrong -and I may then want to comment of the errors.
-such as mistakingly calling 'Scouse' -Lobby.”

“@ Chrisfj: quote- '....so anything that raises debate and maybe helps the dialect evolve is not a bad thing is it? unquote.

Now I know you don't get the point ar kid. Your argument seems to be focused more on 'promoting the cartoon' and the 'industry' that goes with it, -than being concerned by the 'watering down' and 'false representation' of our historic dialect.... and, it seems, -at any cost.

'...helps the dialect EVOLVE'' ?! (innit)

So to hell with authenticity -it's all about 'moving on' is it? Moving on, 'evolving', leaving the past behind -(past its sell by date) -in order to accommodate a cartoonist; -caartoonist who had no personal connection, experience of the dialect.
The glaring errors that ensued from that ignorance -and waived by a local Newspaper, whose Editors are rarely from the local area, and who themselves are renowned for their patronising attitude to all things 'local' -Potteries. (the latter criticism applies to all local newspapers in the land) -say it all, speak volumes.

The Editor at the time,= who sanctioned the initial series of 'May un Mar Lady', would have just assumed that someone who wanted to do a cartoon series on the 'peculiarities' of a Potteries Working Class Old Couple' -using the local dialect to give it authenticity, -would have naturally been someone who knew the dialect inside out. Well he would wouldn't he. How wrong he was.
Now that a generation has grown up with 'May un Mar Lady' -they will naturally not take kindly to an owd un, lark may, chipping in with the academic perspective -attacking their sacred cow - 'ugh!!' -and humbug.

It's all about people without any personal experience of the dialect, such as yourself, where it was not a visceral part of their growing up -central to their core existence”

“"camband" I think you seem to miss the point but thanks for your perspectives on the potteries dialect its great to hear people talking about potteries dialect in 2012 isn't it? .... And your doing that because of this, so thank you cartoon and radio play.

We look forward to reading your book or documentary on the subject and you widening the debate and knowledge on the subject, have you any blogs or anything on the subject? If not, I'm glad you have found a platform to air your opinions, that's kind of the point, there's not a lot of places to discuss this stuff, so anything that raises debate and maybe helps the dialect evolve is not a bad thing is it? Hopefully the radio show will stir debate and interest in the complexities of local dialects. Remember May un Mar Lady is 'only' a cartoon (not a potteries dialect lesson) it has its own form of 'potteries dialect' we can call it what we like, 'cartoon potteries dialect' (its not real life its a cartoon!) after all May only has three fingers not anatomically correct but hay its a cartoon !”

“@ chrisjf -'...Maybe if it was written in a too traditional and historically accurate a form it may have have not appealed or been as accessible to such a wide audience
So long live May un Mar Lady and Potteries dialect in all it's old and new forms in 'cartoonialect' and 'twitterilect'"... unquote:

You miss the point entirely mate. First though, to correct your text above, you should have said, 'May un Mar Lady and 'pretend' Potteries dialect.... Or, 'guessed at' Potteries dialect. Or, 'an approximation' of Potteries dialect. Historic fact is too important to be so dismissive about.
Secondly, the authentic 'grammatically correct' Potteries dialect -is far more easily 'understood' -deciphered ... than the 'guessed at' version that Dave Follows and the Sentinel between them concocted.
It is the grammar of any language that makes it accessible. That applies equally to dialect as it does to 'standard English'. You seem to be confusing dialect with slang; two entirely different things. Dust understand weer ahm comin' from -owk?”

“by TowCrateArfur @ "Camband,
It wanner Dave Follows wat wrote the te the cartoons."

Who was it?”

“"TowCrateArfur" Dave Follows wrote all his own cartoons, please see video of Dave talking about MUML here - http://tinyurl.com/779n7oy - the first four years they were translated into Potteries dialect by staff at the Sentinel, then the potteries speaking staff left and then Dave took over himself for the other 14 years.”