Buses could soon be 'daytime' only

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EVENING bus services could soon be axed as part of cost-cutting measures along three key routes.

First Bus company is considering sweeping changes to their number one, two and five services, which run between Hanley, Bentilee, Longton and Abbey Hulton.

  1. DISMAYED: Linda Cave, of Abbey Hulton,  catches the bus  from Hanley every evening.  Picture: Chris Huthwaite

    DISMAYED: Linda Cave, of Abbey Hulton, catches the bus from Hanley every evening. Picture: Chris Huthwaite

The changes would see the services running in the daytime only – and could come into force as soon as next month.

The bus company said it is looking into cutting back the services due to a fall in passenger numbers, and a decision is expected to be taken on Wednesday.

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First Bus spokesman Ady Culpin, pictured below, said: "One of the changes is in relation to the Bentilee estate.

"The changes will affect every service as they would be withdrawn after 7pm.

"It is solely down to low patronage as there are very few people using them late at night.

"As we operate commercially, it is not viable to keep a service going that is not being used." Linda Cave, of Priory Road, Abbey Hulton, is among regular bus users who were dismayed to hear about the potential cuts.

The council cleaning supervisor said: "I work five nights a week in Hanley so if my bus is cut then I will have to walk for an hour to get home.

"Because I don't drive I have to always rely on public transport but without these services it will make things very hard for a lot of people.

"It is the worst time of the year to be left without transport, especially when it's snowy and icy.

"Cutting bus services puts people at risk because we are forced to walk home in the dark and late at night."

If the cuts go ahead, the number one service from Hanley to Longton, which used to run until 11.45pm, would finish at 7.15pm from Monday to Saturday.

On Sunday the last service will run at 6.45pm

Service number two, which runs via Bentilee and Weston Park, would finish at 6.55pm from Monday to Saturday, and at 6.25pm on Sunday.

The plans for service five, which runs between Hanley and Abbey Hulton, have not yet been finalised but are expected be similar. Mr Culpin said: "The routes will go out to tender and if any company feels they can take on the work, then they will.

"And if there is funding available then there will be no inconvenience to our passengers.

"People have to be realistic. We never like having to take a service away, but if customer numbers have dropped off we are faced with no other option."

However, fifty-eight-year-old Mrs Cave said: "It is not fair for those who use these services and rely on them.

"Even if we share a taxi home then it takes money from our earnings. It is enough to put people off working."

Officials at Stoke-on-Trent City Council have already held meetings with representatives of other bus companies to see if they could fill in to ease the cuts, should they be implemented.

Councillor Ruth Rosenau, cabinet member for regeneration, planning and transportation said: "We are talking to local bus companies to see if there is any interest in them taking on these services on a commercial basis.

"However, no offer to do so has been received by any operator.

"So, as things stand, these evening services will cease on the given date.

"There is no budget currently available for the city council to fund these services."

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  • Profile image for PlayboyLeaLea

    by PlayboyLeaLea

    Wednesday, December 05 2012, 9:42PM

    “warren... i need a bus from morrisons to hanley though, and they're stopping the bus that goes past there for 7. i dunna finish til 8 grrrrr my god, bakers or arriva come and take over please!!!”

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    by jammy7781

    Wednesday, December 05 2012, 9:03PM

    “So the council send people to Hanley to find out why people are staying away ask first bus, so Ilive on Hollybush Estate, if I want a night out in Stoke or Hanley I have to walk or get a taxi which makes it a expensive night out, this city is fast becoming a waste of space, plus why stop the service befor Christmas, thought they needed people to shop in Hanley. new bus station will be a waste of money then.”

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    by RegenMan1

    Tuesday, December 04 2012, 4:10PM

    “First Bus today published details of their revised timetables, commencing Sunday 9 December.

    Monday to Friday
    Service 1 – last bus from Hanley 1915, last bus from Longton 1914.
    Service 2 – last bus from Hanley 1825, last bus from Longton 1834 (to Adderley Green only).
    Service 5 – last bus from Hanley 1911, last bus from Abbey Hulton 1925.
    Service 23 – last bus from Hanley 1855, last bus from Newstead 1922.
    Service 23A – last bus from Hanley 1925, last bus from Blurton 1857

    Saturday
    Service 1 – last bus from Hanley 1915, last bus from Longton 1844.
    Service 2 – last bus from Hanley 1855 (to Adderley Green only), last bus from Longton 1858 (to Adderley Green only).
    Service 5 – last bus from Hanley 1911, last bus from Abbey Hulton 1925.
    Service 23 – last bus from Hanley 1825, last bus from Newstead 1922.
    Service 23A – last bus from Hanley 1925, last bus from Blurton 1847

    Sunday
    Service 1 – last bus from Hanley 1845, last bus from Longton 1912 (to Adderley Green only).
    Service 2 – last bus from Hanley 1825to Adderley Green only), last bus from Longton 1836 to Adderley Green only.
    Service 5 – last bus from Hanley 1856, 1910 from Abbey Hulton
    Service 23 – last bus from Hanley 1926, last bus from Blurton 1854.
    Service 23A – last bus from Hanley 1856, last bus from Blurton 1824


    Merry Christmas from First!

    Get on board with First – but do it before nightfall!”

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    by penky

    Monday, December 03 2012, 6:11PM

    “I travel from beverly drive to crewe on a friday and sunday to fetch my children as i DO NOT Own a car tht is going to put an end to these visits from my children .they propose to stop the crew bus on a sunday from the first of january also they intend to stop the number two on a sunday this contact with my children is my highlight of the week ps i have just upgraded my bus pass so i can bring my eldest child on it that was a waste of my money where do they get off telling disabled people to stay in they obvisally have mates with cars wich i dont have THANK U FOR SCREWING MY VISITS UP they should be made to do the same see how they like it this somthing you would expect from a third world country”

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    by abusdriver

    Sunday, November 25 2012, 6:57PM

    “Whatever creaper.....whatever!!

    Just for the record, a public servant is someone who is paid from the public purse, ie civil servants, HM Forces, teachers, police, NHS, fire service ect.

    So all these people are low lifes are they, servants as you quote?

    You are a bit of a clown really, i bet if you told a soldier to his face that he was a low life public servant, you would be leaving his or her prescence on a stretcher.

    So we are just going to ignore you now because you have made a fool of yourself again.

    By the way thanks to those people who enjoy their bus travel and support it, at the end of the day it's never a good thing to lose services and even worse that the council is unwilling to tender these services out due to cutbacks.”

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    by the_reaper

    Sunday, November 25 2012, 12:43PM

    “being a bus driver is one step up from begging and the sooner abusdriver gets used to that, the better we will all be. For God's sake, they havent even got the brains to use a clutch.

    You're a public servant, low life and very low paid maybe, but a servant none the less. Maybe you should shut your prattle and serve.”

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    by camband

    Sunday, November 25 2012, 11:37AM

    “'On the Buses' -remember that show. Takes yer back eh! Regarding some of the comments -expert/novice alike, It might help if we remember that there are good and bad in every profession -as there are out there in the 'land of the public'.

    It's when a 'bad' bus-user -meets a 'bad' bus driver -that sparks fly -sometimes big-time. I use all the local services daily -First PMT and the other smaller operators and find it in general a pleasant experience. I'd far rather be a passenger on a bus than be a driver of a car.

    I'm reminded all the time, as I sit on the bus, of just how unpleasant it is to drive a car in a conurbation like that of North Staffordshire. Whenever the bus is queuing among a mixture of traffic at multi-lane junctions controlled by traffic lights, or multi-lane roundabouts -also controlled by traffic lights... and I sit there by the window looking down on the motorist, female or male, next to the bus -you can 'feel' the stress they are under.

    Twitching faces, tap-tap-tap on the steering wheel, -and on hills in these situations, 'holding the vehicle stationary with two feet, instead of applying the handbrake and relaxing the whole body, -instead they have one foot on the clutch and the other on the accelerator pedal (burning the clutch to a cinder in the process), -or crouched like an elastic band, they hold the vehicle with one foot on the brake pedal -tense and troubled.

    Dear oh dear oh dear.... what cars do to some people.

    Rush rush rush.... frenetic, frenzied 'A to B' lifestyles.... And this is most obvious at 'home-time' -that period between 4pm and 6pm Monday to Friday -and the latter 'FRIDAY' .. well, that's something to behold. Jumping red lights is de riguer for many motorists -acceptable criminal behaviour.

    No, even with the odd obnoxious bus driver, and there are without doubt some like that, give me the bus every time. My favourite 'relaxed' moment on the bus was when there were only abut six or seven passengers on it, and someone pressed the bell to stop at the next stop, and the very 'relaxed and charming bus driver' remarked, in the tone of a Butler, or Footman, 'DID SOMEONE RING'?..... We all smiled at his sense of occasion and friendly banter. Unforgettable.”

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    by Exserviceman

    Sunday, November 25 2012, 9:47AM

    “I am really amazed that the City of Stoke on Trent doesn't run like clockwork because the number of regular posters on this site who are experts on everything under the sun is unbelievable. On the present subject First Bus is a commercial organisation who have money invested in equipment and premises , employ lots of people and have to make a profit to stay in business. Any routes that are unprofitable but deemed necessary should therefore be subsidised by the council. As for the remarks by reaper , get out and try driving a bus and facing the public , quite a few of whom are as offensive as you appear to be.”

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    by abusdriver

    Saturday, November 24 2012, 10:10PM

    “Ok creaper, now that you have had your hissy fit and that you have made it clear that you have some sort of complex with bus drivers, good, well done, deal with it!
    What is more astounding is that you think it's shameful to go out to work and earn a wage.

    Tell you what, it's best you just keep on making your self righteous comments on here, trying to crave some attention that you probably never had, basically at the end of the day nobody really gives a **** anyway, least of all me!!

    Ta ra duck!”

  • Profile image for the_reaper

    by the_reaper

    Saturday, November 24 2012, 8:02AM

    “Oh dear, as if the shame of being a bus driver is not enough, he has to admit it in public!! Best you just get on with your serving the public, after all they pay your pittance of a wage.”

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