50,000 motorists caught by Staffordshire's speed cameras

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Tuesday, September 11, 2012
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ALMOST 9,000 more motorists have been caught out by speed cameras on Staffordshire's roads in a year.

New figures have revealed the increase despite funding cuts and just 29 of the region's 263 cameras being switched on at any one time.

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They show the number of drivers caught by mobile and fixed speed traps in the county and Stoke-on-Trent rocketed by 8,783 from 41,269 in 2010/11 to 50,052 in 2011/12.

Tickets issued by the area's six mobile camera vans – which are now being deployed on the A500 between Etruria and Hanford in a safety crackdown – increased by 22.4 per cent to 23,757. And the number of motorists caught by fixed yellow Gatso cameras also shot up by 20.2 per cent to 26,295. Staffordshire County Council – which helps to pay for the cameras – today claimed motorists had become 'complacent'.

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Road safety campaigner John Clarke, aged 75, of Main Road, Wetley Rocks, where families demanded cameras after six roads deaths in 2003, said: "When people get to learn which cameras don't have films in them then the authorities could catch them out by putting one in.

"The cameras have definitely reduced speeding here. We've had knocks and scrapes but nothing serious."

Drivers caught speeding by cameras or mobile vans are offered speed awareness courses to avoid £60 fines and three penalty points on their licence.

Fees for the courses are now set to rise from £75 to more than £100 to help keep the cameras switched on.

Cash from fines goes straight to the Government but course fees can be spent keeping cameras active in spite of council spending cuts.

Paul Biggs, Staffordshire co-ordinator for the Association of British Drivers, said: "Allowing road partnerships to keep the money raised from speed awareness courses is driving this increase because they're now using it as a revenue stream to keep the cameras.

"Motorists drive according to the road conditions and layout and are often caught out by an inappropriate speed limit."

The cameras are run by Staffordshire Safer Roads Partnership, which is funded by a number of bodies including Staffordshire Police, Staffordshire County Council and Stoke-on-Trent City Council.

The county council said the rise 'appears to be down to people becoming a little complacent about speed cameras'.

County council highway's chief Councillor Mike Maryon added: "Motorists who break the speed limit are wantonly putting their own lives and the lives of other road users at risk and if they weren't doing this they wouldn't be picked up by cameras or prosecuted.

"The use of speed cameras, both mobile and static, are part of a wide range of measures used to both highlight and educate people about all aspects of road safety."

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  • Profile image for camband

    by camband

    Sunday, September 16 2012, 10:23PM

    “Challenge the authority who set the speed limits -it's nowt to do with the cameras -they are there simply to help uphold the law... they don't make the law.

    People who get upset by speed cameras are just angry with themselves and the authorities who set the speed limits -when they get caught speeding.

    Why take the chance of speeding when you are obviously not equipped mentally or emotionally, or financially -to cope with speed cameras .....”

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    by bobble1956

    Wednesday, September 12 2012, 3:55PM

    “Sorry Mole 10 I can't find in my previous posting where I said I never break the speed limit, however just to make it clear it is a fact that I never break speed limits. You however have been found guilty of doing so rightly or wrongly. Your driving instructor friend by speeding has given people the right to say that possibly he is training the next generation of speeders. I don't need the catholic church or anyone else to pray for me I drive with a completely clear conscience.”

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    by mole10

    Wednesday, September 12 2012, 10:05AM

    “Scfc08:
    Thanks for the lesson on safer driving.
    I have a CLEAN licence and have been on the road since 17 years old.
    I was caught out by a hidden mobile speed van and I have no problem with the BRIGHT ORANGE static cameras with BIG WHITE LINES warning me of their approach!

    I took the rap because the letter that came through my door nailed the car and not the driver.
    They found the car guilty and wanted me, the owner, to grass on the driver.
    I INTERROGATED the other two drivers who were possibly guilty of this crime but they opted to remain silent.
    I asked Staffs authorities to present the photograph so I could shove it down the throat of the criminal, but they could only offer a headrest as the driver.

    As the slowest driver on the road, I reluctantly took the rap and accepted the £75 speed awareness course (should be called driver awareness course).

    I still have a CLEAN licence and at 30 mph on a 30 mph road, I still retain the title as the slowest driver on the road.

    All in all, mobile cameras are a money trap, orange static cameras are a prevention and the notion of instant guilt via an enforcement letter goes against British justice.

    Saying that, I enjoyed the course, I enjoyed being with equally miffed people and was startled to learn how much I did not know of the highway code, even though I drive daily.

    Bobble:
    It's hard enough answering for myself but heartwarming that you never exceed any limits.
    The Catholic church salutes you.”

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    by stokieme

    Wednesday, September 12 2012, 8:37AM

    “Speed camera's are generally a good thing, especially with the stupid dangerous drivers on our roads as long as they follow the road traffic act.

    When all the road works were taking place around the A500 underpasses in Stoke, they had a 30 mph speed limit through the road works and I always complied with that limit. Leaving Stoke going towards the old MFI island, you came to the end of the road works where there was an End of Road Works sign, then you had a section of road before going under the Shelton Old Rd bridge, where they had placed a 50 mph sign. They then placed a mobile speed camera on the bridge. After coming through the road works I increased my speed and was caught at 40 mph under the bridge and received a fine and 3 points.

    The road traffic act states that once you go past an end of road works sign, normal road conditions/speeds apply, so under that act I was not speeding. But unlike footballers etc I do not have the money to go court and fight that fine and had to pay.

    So yes, some camera's are placed to raise money and fleese unsuspecting motorists, by illegally issuing tickets.”

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    by camband

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 11:18PM

    “by Tabazan: -" It's already been said on this thread a few times, but it's worth repeating; don't speed and you won't get fined. Could anything be more obvious?" UNQUOTE.

    Apparently not.”

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    by camband

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 11:15PM

    “362 (you missed the second 'lout').

    Trivial enough to ignore.... ?”

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    by Tabazan

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 11:11PM

    “@DJofTNE

    You said;

    "If speeding kills then why are f1 drivers not dying each week in 200mph+ races? Because they can drive well…"

    The F1 drivers that have been involved in the numerous accidents caused by Romain Grosjean this season might have a slightly different take on the point you are making DJofTNE.”

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    by Tabazan

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 10:59PM

    “Generally speaking, Speed Cameras tend to get a bad press as they are often seen as revenue streams as opposed to safety measures.

    But thinking about it, do we really want a return to the days before Speed Cameras were introduced? You know, the days when drivers would regularly do twice the 30mph speed limit along routes like Dividy Road and Trentham Road, or be touching 80mph half way down Ash Bank?

    The bottom line is that if motorists didn't speed, then the cameras would disappear as they would become utterly unnecessary . It's already been said on this thread a few times, but it's worth repeating; don't speed and you won't get fined. Could anything be more obvious?”

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    by scfcscfc08

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 10:12PM

    “Camband, it's possible to sign your life away with just the two words 'I do', so why do you need to write so much to make trivial points?

    I might read what you write if it was shorter. I've read Gone With the Wind but brother, you've got more wind than that.

    (52 words compared to your 361)”

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    by camband

    Tuesday, September 11 2012, 9:28PM

    “by Tomadi: "Speed cameras highlight serious deficiencies with a motorists observational and awareness skills and not, their use of speed. If they were good drivers, they wouldn't have been caught." UNQUOTE.

    Got it in one sunshine. I even heard the BBC Radio Stoke Presenter -Stuart George, admit on air, when covering the subject a few months ago on his 'morning show' -that he had been 'caught on camera' on his way into work -and fined and he got the 3 penalty points too.

    He even identified the camera -one of the most prominent of the lot, a real 'cash cow' to boot, -you can see it from about 500 yards away as you come up the hill out of Newcastle heading for Hanley (and Radio Stoke Studios).
    He comes that way every day he says, -knows it's there -yet still 'SPEEDS PAST IT AND GETS HIMSELF ON FILM -A fair cop -which he didn't really accept. Grumbling, and still smarting from the experience, and annoyed at the camera catching him. Poor cameras, they always get the flack.

    It was obvious how he'd got himself into that silly situation, -it's when motorist play 'roulette with the lights'. He'd be coming up King St out of Newcastle -as he does day in day out, and with about 40 yards to go to the junction, and with the lights on Green -suddenly find them changing to amber and red -but instead of coming to a stop, as any good and sensible driver would, -he'd obviously 'put his foot down to get through (I've witnessed this foolhardy practice many times) -and 'BINGO' he gets through ok, -before the traffic crossing the junction from Sandy Lane/Albert St get a 'green' -but by putting his foot down -in his excitement with the 'adrenalin flowing' -he's forgot the camera -and gone through... -as the Sentinel likes to call it... THE TRAP..... at 40mph. 'Trap'? -if it is a 'trap' it's a self-setting one'.

    Yes, he was annoyed with the camera set up was our Stuart...! He had nobody to blame but his silly self, yet he can't accept that. Mard arces..... all of 'em -including that lout PULIS.”

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