£147,000 cost of 'luxury' bus stops
LUXURY modern bus stops are due to open this week, though they won't be working fully until the summer.
The four new shelters for Burslem will have LCD screens and CCTV, costing £147,000.
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SHELTER: A shopper waits for a bus in Swan Square, where one of the new shelters is being erected.
Other areas of the city are expected to benefit from the same shelters next year.
The stops in Burslem are due to be completed this week before being unveiled at the Christmas lights switch-on on Saturday.
Timetable information will initially be displayed on the screens but there are plans to have expected bus arrival times and details of traffic problems included on the display by June.
Councillor Adrian Knapper, portfolio holder for regeneration and economic development at Stoke-on-Trent City Council, said: "The bus shelters are part of the ongoing regeneration in Burslem which is reinvigorating an important and historical town.
"The new designs, with real time passenger information and security cameras, will help to provide travellers with a safe and comfortable environment while they wait."
The four shelters, which have been funded by central Government, will be in Wedgwood Street and Swan Square, providing seating for up to eight passengers, and in Market Place and Fountain Place with seats for four.
When the screens are fully operational they will work like the system used on the London Underground, giving the expected times of the next buses and information on delays. But they cannot be installed until the real time technology is available in all the buses.
Commercial director of bus company First, Paul De Santis, said: "We welcome anything which will improve the environment for bus passengers.
"The council's traffic management scheme and improvements they have planned for Burslem will make a big difference.
"Real time information will not be able to be installed in a couple of bus stops as it will have to be part of an overall scheme for North Staffordshire."
But not everyone is happy with the scheme in Burslem.
Jim Piper, aged 73, is concerned about how the change has been handled. He said: "I didn't believe they could just take the bus stops away over night but that's exactly what they did.
"The council told me there would be new luxury bus stops but there was nothing wrong with the old ones.
"They just needed seats and everyone would have been happy.
"But they have gone about this the wrong way, they've left people in Burslem without any shelter for weeks.
"Why didn't they do this in the summer instead of during the worst months of the year?"
A council spokesman said the shelters in Swan Square and Fountain Place were removed three weeks ago and added those in Market Place and Wedgwood Place have been left in place while the new shelters are fitted.







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by Helen French, Hanley
Thursday, December 04 2008, 1:53PM
“The first thursday those bus stops go up, they will probably be trashed as the youth club empties out on the night time. I had to request not to work late shifts on a thursday at work because its really not pleasant being next to a load of yelling kids kicking the bus stands, swearing, pushing each other and generally causing mayhem. They'll not last five minutes. I just wish we'd had some forewarning as this weather is really not nice to be standing around in waiting. The time taken has been ridiculously long - it must have been several weeks ago they started, then the builders left them for a while. Thankfully, they've started constructing the things again. It's not as if the bus stops further along the route have any shelter either. Some forethought would have been much appreciated.”
by Warren, Stoke on Trent
Tuesday, December 02 2008, 9:31AM
“Lets look at it this way, how meny normal bus shelters could be put up for the large amount of money the council are paying for just the 4. So a few falk can stand at a new bus shelter watching a LCD, getting wet to the bone, wateing for a bus thats running late, the rest of us stand at one of he old ones just geting wet to the bone wateing for a bus thats running late.”
by Em, Hartshill
Tuesday, December 02 2008, 8:57AM
“I agree with BM and LB. I lived in Cardiff for a while and there were displays at stops there telling you when the next bus was due, and it made me much more likely to use buses.
Here, I find I arrive at a stop believing there's a bus due, only for it not to turn up. As there's no way of telling whether it's not coming or just delayed, I end up walking to my destination or getting a taxi - often for my bus to pass me en route.
I think people wouldn't mind waiting at bus stops so much if they knew how long they would have to wait. I've noticed that buses and bus stops here are often deserted, compared to other cities where they are well used, so these signs might go some way towards making public transport more user-friendly.
This initiative should be rolled out across the city and not just in Burslem.”
by George, Stoke
Monday, December 01 2008, 9:07PM
“I would say there is a big difference between moaners and thugs who smash things up. Whilst both are negative actions, moaners don't cause people to be standing outside in the elements. Incidentally not all bus stops have shelters. I think that the money would be better spent trying to improve First buses ot run on time and give the comuter a better deal!”
by Paul, Burslem
Monday, December 01 2008, 8:20PM
“As a daily user of these stops does infuriate me that despite all the technical and aesthetic claims for these bus shelters they will not actually shelter anyone. These have been selected by people who will never even think of taking a bus. I would just like to ask these people would they be happy for an elderly person to wait at one of these for thirty minutes. The existing shelters have not been badly vandalized unlike many with the one at the war memorial being an ideal of a shelter, large and effective at protecting waiting passengers. Waiting in the rain and cold costs business with time off work from ill health, discourages those who have options from using public transport and exposes our elderly to misery and conditions that they should not have to tolerate.
We need shelters that function as shelters.”
by Charles Simpson, Etruria
Monday, December 01 2008, 7:00PM
“Where on EARTH do our councillors dream up these hairbrained ideas. Don't they know that what they are doing is just more fodder for the yobs of this city to smash up. I, for one, would be happier if they spent our money on picking up the tons of litter which make our city look the filth hole that it is.”
by Labyrinth, stoke
Monday, December 01 2008, 6:03PM
“why on earth are we paying for these out of our money when the buses who overcharge already should be paying. even with inflated fuel prices my car is cheaper. i truely support the idea of safer public transport. this i cannot see making it that.
i would imagine BM and LB that you would complain if you were 73 years old and standing in the wet and cold waiting for a bus because our council cannot organise itself and prioritise its tasks correctly. why carry this work out in winter?
use our money to help people feel safer in our community to make us want to use them in the first place.”
by Charles Taylor, Bristol
Monday, December 01 2008, 5:50PM
“Just after the war I was in the potteries very often and there was no need for screens. With five companies working the "Main Line" the longest wait was about three minutes.
However this went to about seven minutes after 10 p.m.”
by LB, Burslem
Monday, December 01 2008, 5:08PM
“****CLAPS**** BM.
I agree, there is no difference in the moaners and the ones that smash it up!
This will be so much better as me as a young woman will feel so much safer.
Yes we have not had a shelter for 2 weeks whihc was slightly annoying, I have 2 small children but we coped, the outcome will be so much better.
They have these in other cities I have visted and they work well.
Oh Stoke On Trent, don't like any change a lot of people here! Move with the times people!”
by geoff, Telford
Monday, December 01 2008, 4:53PM
“Perhaps money should be spent on cleaning up the buses interiors first , they are an insult to the people ..”