1,000 civil servants walk out on strike

“Stokepotter says,

'Without these rich people their would be no jobs. We need their money to generate the wealth'

Stokepotter can I suggest you read my earlier post again. It points out that big business companies, despite the savage cuts the rest of us are facing, are INCREASING their profits but they 'have £750 billion stashed away in banks' because they are NOT prepared to invest it.

By the way you seem to be under the illusion that it's the owners of companies that create the wealth. I disagree. It's workers that produce wealth.

To solve this dispute maybe we could try an experiment.

Suppose the owners and shareholders of Michelin all stayed at home next Monday. What would happen? Michelin workers would still be producing tyres and thereby creating wealth.

But suppose on Tuesday all Michelin workers stayed at home. What would happen? No tyres and no wealth created.

Conclusion? Factories like Michelin and others should be taken into public ownership and run by those who actually do create the wealth in the interests of the millions instead of the interests of the top 1000 super rich with their fortune of £414 billion”

“Not sure if the industrial action was planned or not? If it was, why did I have to travel from Leek to Hanley by bus to sign on ?”

“I say SACK the bloody lot of them they are VERY LUCKY to even have a job, Let alone a pension, most in the private sector cannot afford a pension and even those who over years have put in to a company pension find it was pointless when 5, 8, 10 years down the line (if they are lucky) find they no longer have a job and find the pension they had they have lost because I do not know of anyone able to afford to keep up pension contributions on JSA .

Things are hard in this country at present but watch the news it could be a hell of a lot worse and if Liebour had stayed we would of been in the same if not worse position than Greece, Cyprus etc this country was almost brought to it's knees under Liebour and because of their mismanagement we are now all paying and it hurts but it would hurt a whole lot more if you found you could not be treated at the hospital because they hadn't even got bandages and other minor first aid equipment, or that NO benefits could be paid to anyone, etc etc because that would of happened had the country gone Bankrupt.

Just as all you still living in Joke-on-Trent keep complaining about "the Council" but hey you still vote liebour in because it's what your parents and grandparents did. Grow up get educated and think yourselves Lucky .

Let the knuckle dragging idiots begin bring on the arrows you know you will.”

“stokepotter nice to see you enjoyed the luxury of a face to face service from public sector workers in HMRC and DWP. Sadly when the Government have cut more of these jobs, adding to the unemployment figures and the numbers claiming benefits, not paying tax into the treasury - you will be able to call a contact centre...

Stop thinking you have all the targets in the private sector and that you work 'arder! These public servants get abuse every day of the year, they are subject to assaults, and as the 75,000 job cuts bite they have massive workloads... The present Government change legislation weekly! So let's look at private companies who deliver their services when they are given £Bn contracts - Work Programme job entries 3.5% in 14mths! Cost to YOU and ME the tax-payer£5bn... Best delivered and cheaper for tax-payer in the public sector!

And then we have A4E, ATOS, Capita etc. etc. All failing the public...

Public bad...Private can be even worse!!!

Give them a break. We all work 'ard! And we all deserve decent pay and conditions. Lets support workers in general and get after those who cripple our economy by dodging tax and by awarding themselves massive bonuses...”

“Benko. Without these rich people ther would be no jobs. We need their money to generate the wealth in the Private Sector in order to pay for the consumers who are the Public Sector. Even the bankers who many people seem to despise contribute by the services they provide, about eleven per cent of the national income. We need to encourage these rich people to create jobs in the UK and if it increases their wealth, then so what. It is they that provide the jobs for the rest of us to put food on the table. Knocking and envying them just encourages them to go to countries where they are welcome - and leaves us the poorer.”

“Guys, having been to the HMRC office in Hanley and the Job Centre in Newcastle, and seen how much time they seem to have on their hands to gossip, I can tell you that these public service workers do not know how lucky they are. They should spend a week or two in the Private sector where they would find out what real work, pay and conditions really are. They really do need to get into the real world where you are paid on results and increased productivity.”

“Guys, having been to the HMRC office in Hanley and the Job Centre in Newcastle, and seen how much time they seem to have on their hands to gossip, I can tell you that these public service workers do not know how lucky they are. They should spend a week or two in the Private sector where they would find out what real work, pay and conditions really are. They really do need to get into the real world where you are paid on results and increased productivity.”

“Last year the richest 1000 people in Britain increased their wealth by 5%. They have now amassed a staggering fortune of £414 billion.

Big business has £750 billion stashed away in banks because they are refusing to invest.

Big business "avoids" paying around £120 billion Corporation Tax every year.

The last Labour government and this Tory government both do their bidding.

THEY ARE "ALL IN IT TOGETHER"

However, there is not one working class family in Britain that is not being hammered by these creatures either through job cuts, attacks on pay and conditions, cuts to local services etc

AND WE "ARE ALL IN IT TOGETHER"

To Britpark, bignallend, stokieade, mowcopman and stunoo2010,

WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?”

“Redstar 987 - your comments are spot on.

This public v private sector argument is put forward by Tory apologists trying to justify their ideological driven cuts of the "evil public sector".

britpark - I'm sorry you don't appear to value the millions of working class people who work in the public sector. Perhaps you have been lucky enough not to need their support but there are millions of others in this country who rely on the hard work and commitment of the swide range of staff who work across the whole of the public sector.

Anyway must dash - I'm off to retrain as one of those fantastic private sector bankers who have added so much to the country's prosperity...”

“Useless shower of paper - pushing unemployables !”